Dear George,
What you are suggesting is already done in the draft.
 
It proposes two mechanism to do access control for IPv6 where, one way of
doing it is a stateful approach is based on ND and the other is to do it in
the stateful approach with DHCPv6.

Instead of people bouncing back and forth I belive that the correct WG now
is the AAA WG.

-- thomas

>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Tsirtsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: den 21 augusti 2001 14:07
>To: 'Bernard Aboba'; Charlie Perkins
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED];
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>Subject: RE: [AAA-WG]: AAA for IPv6
>
>
>It seams to me that the subject of "AAA for IPv6" has at least two
>components that may potentially belong to different WGs. One is the
>communication between the end node and the access router and 
>the other is
>the communication between the AAA client in the Access Router 
>and the rest
>of the AAA infrastructure. 
>
>The latter is all about IPv6 support in the AAA protocol 
>(Radius, diameter,
>cops)...and thus belongs to the AAA/COPS WGs...
>
>The former is about challenging the end node and transporting the
>identification and authentication parameters over the access 
>link. This is
>not part of the AAA protocol (e.g.: typically Radius does not 
>run over the
>access link). What is needed is a "carrier" mechanism for the 
>parameters
>that need to be fed to the AAA protocol. PPPv6 for example 
>provides such a
>carrier. MIPv4 also provides such a carrier to IPv4 nodes that 
>use Mobile IP
>but, MIPv6, due to the lack of FAs, does not provide such an obvious
>carrier...hence Charlie's work. Now, there are a couple of 
>things that can
>be done IMO.
>
>1. Use Neighbor Discovery (ND) as a carrier for the AAA 
>parameters. e.g.:
>extend Neighbor Advertisements and Router Advertisements to carry
>challenge/response messages....this to me is the job of IPv6 
>WG and could be
>the start of a much bigger fish called authenticated ND or
>
>2. Create a new carrier, independent from ND and with the 
>specific task of
>carrying the appropriate challenge/response parameters...this 
>to me belongs
>to URP WG.
>
>...my two drachma
>
>Regards
>George
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:06 AM
>To: Charlie Perkins
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED];
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [AAA-WG]: AAA for IPv6
>
>
>The AAA WG only considers work items resulting from a consensus draft
>within a subject area WG. Until the IPNG or URP WG progresses 
>a draft on
>the subject, we cannot consider a work item relating to AAA for IPV6. 
>
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