Thomas,

The WG chairs may correct me if I misunderstood, but at the last AAA WG
meeting it was evident that even work clearly on the current charter, like
Mobile IPv6 Application (extension), do not get taken up by the WG. At least
not before the current work is finished, and maybe the WG is re-chartered
etc. So it seems hopeless to even think about work on areas outside, or
bordering the current charter.

I think the URP WG should be chartered ASAP and AAAv6 taken there as a
possible solution. Where can I find the current proposal for the URP
charter?

With regards,

        Jarno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Thomas Eklund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 21. elokuuta 2001 15:23
> To: 'George Tsirtsis'; 'Bernard Aboba'; Charlie Perkins
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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> Subject: RE: [AAA-WG]: AAA for IPv6
> 
> 
> Dear George,
> What you are suggesting is already done in the draft.
>  
> It proposes two mechanism to do access control for IPv6 
> where, one way of
> doing it is a stateful approach is based on ND and the other 
> is to do it in
> the stateful approach with DHCPv6.
> 
> Instead of people bouncing back and forth I belive that the 
> correct WG now
> is the AAA WG.
> 
> -- thomas
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: George Tsirtsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: den 21 augusti 2001 14:07
> >To: 'Bernard Aboba'; Charlie Perkins
> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED];
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [AAA-WG]: AAA for IPv6
> >
> >
> >It seams to me that the subject of "AAA for IPv6" has at least two
> >components that may potentially belong to different WGs. One is the
> >communication between the end node and the access router and 
> >the other is
> >the communication between the AAA client in the Access Router 
> >and the rest
> >of the AAA infrastructure. 
> >
> >The latter is all about IPv6 support in the AAA protocol 
> >(Radius, diameter,
> >cops)...and thus belongs to the AAA/COPS WGs...
> >
> >The former is about challenging the end node and transporting the
> >identification and authentication parameters over the access 
> >link. This is
> >not part of the AAA protocol (e.g.: typically Radius does not 
> >run over the
> >access link). What is needed is a "carrier" mechanism for the 
> >parameters
> >that need to be fed to the AAA protocol. PPPv6 for example 
> >provides such a
> >carrier. MIPv4 also provides such a carrier to IPv4 nodes that 
> >use Mobile IP
> >but, MIPv6, due to the lack of FAs, does not provide such an obvious
> >carrier...hence Charlie's work. Now, there are a couple of 
> >things that can
> >be done IMO.
> >
> >1. Use Neighbor Discovery (ND) as a carrier for the AAA 
> >parameters. e.g.:
> >extend Neighbor Advertisements and Router Advertisements to carry
> >challenge/response messages....this to me is the job of IPv6 
> >WG and could be
> >the start of a much bigger fish called authenticated ND or
> >
> >2. Create a new carrier, independent from ND and with the 
> >specific task of
> >carrying the appropriate challenge/response parameters...this 
> >to me belongs
> >to URP WG.
> >
> >...my two drachma
> >
> >Regards
> >George
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:06 AM
> >To: Charlie Perkins
> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED];
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> >Subject: Re: [AAA-WG]: AAA for IPv6
> >
> >
> >The AAA WG only considers work items resulting from a consensus draft
> >within a subject area WG. Until the IPNG or URP WG progresses 
> >a draft on
> >the subject, we cannot consider a work item relating to AAA 
> for IPV6. 
> >
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