In your previous mail you wrote: I'm pretty far behind on reading these voluminous e-mails, but I would at least like to express again my belief that we could go forward with the HAO as it is. If the downside is that then there is vulnerability to (single!) packets being reflected back to an unsuspecting home address, then: - This is not a completely horrible problem => I agree but it seems there is the real point...
- Solutions involving use of security associations between mobile and correspondent will be developed more rapidly if there is motivation for use with Proposed Standard Mobile IPv6 => a two phase approach works never in the security domain or the triangular routing needs HAO support everywhere to make sense. - We can be done almost immediately, and begin to productively tackle the issues more effectively with experience. => I still believe the idea to send IPv6 questions to the IPv6 WG is the correct one. In fact the decision of keeping or killing the triangular routing is in the hands of IPv6 implementors (they are supposed to read the IPv6 WG list from time to time). I think there is a very real possibility that we are getting stalled in worrying over a problem that is not going to happen. => to get stalled is the worst way to get a decision. A couple of other points: Francis Dupont wrote: > => we don't need to wait because mobile IPv6 is not yet fully specified. That is purely a matter of opinion. => or of what is the meaning of fully specified. It seems I am the author of this statement so I meant "not yet ready for publication". In my opinion, we are not moving forward because we are being required to boil the ocean before even being allowed to take a drink. => this one of the drawbacks of security issues... I am not commenting other remarks because we agree. Well, technically speaking, it was already in Last Call last year (and the year before). But I guess that is really a moot point. => is a new last call after important changes due to IESG concerns required? It seems we'll get a new WG last call, and perhaps some last calls about other (than the spec) MIPv6 documents. Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: you are in favor of keeping the triangular routing, aren't you? -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------