Andrew,

Would you mind if we put this sequence in the requirements doc?

Tony


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> Subject: Real life scenario - requirements (local addressing)
> 
> 
> A 'real life' deployment scenario.
> 
> (a) I set up a local network.  I currently have no ISP, but I 
> want my network to 'just work' out of the box.  This network 
> consists of (initially) three routers, plus other infrastructure.
> 
> (b) Sometime later I decide I want internet connectivity, so 
> I connect to an ISP.  I add my ISP provided address to my 
> network in addition to the address/es that are there already. 
>  For argument's sake, let's say the ISP doesn't have IPv6 
> capability, so I use a 6to4 address.
> 
> I do not want my internal addressing exposed outside the 
> network, so I filter my addresses.  I do use the ISPs 
> addresses for external connectivity.
> 
> (c+d) Meanwhile, my friend has done the same thing, except 
> that his ISP DOES offer IPv6, so he has a 'real' IPv6 address.
> 
> (e) We connect our two local networks together (either by VPN 
> tunnel or a wireless link - doesn't matter).  We can now send 
> local traffic to each other, and out either ISP.
> 
> (f) Sometime later I disconnect my ISP, and we use just his ISP.
> 
> (g) Sometime later I disconnect my network from his.
> 
> (h) Sometime later I register with a new ISP, and get a new 
> IPv6 prefix.
> 
> 
> Salient points:
> 
> (1) At points (a), (c) and (g) we have networks that are 
> standalone and have no connection to an ISP or the global 
> internet.  Further, the networks in
> (a) and (c) have never had such a connection.  The users 
> don't want to have to register to get an address that works.
> 
> (2) In (b), the external (6to4) prefix is unstable.  Many 
> ISPs allocate a temporary IPv4 internet address, and change 
> these frequently.
> 
> (3) The set of global prefixes valid for the network changes 
> over time.
>   (a) None
>   (b) #1 (my 6to4)
>   (e) #1 and #2 (friend's v6)
>   (f) #2
>   (g) None
>   (h) #3 (my new v6)
> 
> (4) The only 'reliable' address that the hosts in my network 
> have is the local one they started with.
> 
> This example is quite similar to Tony's research ship 
> example, with the possible caveat that a research ship might 
> be big and organised enough to register with an ISP to get an 
> address space plus connectivity they never intend to use.
> 
> 
> Consequences:
> 
> - I need some form of local addressing that is not dependent 
> on anyone or anything connected to the global internet.
> 
> - I need this local addressing unique enough that I can 
> safely join my network and my friend's network together and 
> allow them to swap prefixes.
> 
> - I want hosts in my network to prefer my local address 
> scheme when talking to other hosts in my network.  I want 
> hosts in my network to prefer one of the local schemes when 
> talking to hosts in my friend's network (since I don't want 
> the packets to leave 'our' network).  I want hosts in my 
> network to prefer global addresses when talking externally.
> 
> - I want my local addresses filtered at appropriate borders, 
> preferably without having to set it up myself.
> 
> - The ISPs probably want my local addresses filtered too.
> 
> 
> Looks suspiciously like the filtered local address proposal, 
> doesn't it?
> 
> -- 
> Andrew White
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