On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Tero Kivinen wrote:

> Frederic Detienne writes:
>>> Frederic Detienne writes:
>>>> And like I said earlier, the amount of negotiation when there are
>>>> multiple prefixes to protect is limited to one. With "modern ipsec
>>>> tunneling" (got to love that), there is still a lot of negotiation
>>>> going on. 
>>> 
>>> I do not understand what you are trying to say there. 
>> 
>> even with "modern ipsec tunneling", one selector has to be
>> negotiated for each pair of prefixes to protect. This can amount to
>> a lot of selectors to negotiate in practice.
> 
> Not for each pairs of prefixes, but for one selector for each subnet
> in total. I.e. if one end has 10 subnets and another has 100, then you
> need 10 initiator traffic selectors and 100 responder traffic
> selectors. 

You could even negotiate universal selectors (0.0.0.0-255.255.255.255) and then 
use some other source of policy (for example: the subnet attribute in the 
configuration payload). I think that is what Microsoft's IKEv2 clients do, but 
it has been over a year since I looked at it, so I may be wrong.

We could document an "any" selector.
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