On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Valery Smyslov <sva...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I think, that it could be solved, if we define new notification,
>>> that could be optionally sent from gateway to client, informing him
>>> that gateway is going to delete IKE SA in some time
>>> interval (indicating that interval in the notification).
>>> If cafr is supported by client and he is willing to use it,
>>> client will start re-authentication before the end of
>>> the interval. If not - gateway will just delete IKE SA
>>> after the interval has ended.
>> 
>> Good idea!  :-)
>> 
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4478
> 
> Sorry, I completely forgot about this RFC.
> Happened funny :-)
> 
>> Think I should mention that in the draft?
> 
> I think yes. 
> BTW, it is only experimental, while your draft's intended status is standards 
> track.

At one time I asked Pasi (the security AD at the time) about updating it to PS 
(there were 3-4 interoperating implementations at the time), and he said that 
it wasn't worth the trouble because even full standards could reference it - 
downrefs are allowed.
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