I just had a look at our TR-069 stats and only 31,7% of our managed CPEs have UPnP enabled. Hint: We mostly ship CPEs with UPnP disabled by default (due to some security issues we had in the past).
-- Tassos Christopher Palmer wrote on 11/10/2013 21:31: > Our data shows that only 24% of user-encountered networks have a NAT that > supports UPnP management (we successfully create a port mapping). That's > across the Windows 7 and 8 population. That's unfiltered, so it will include > hits from corporate environments, hot spots and such, etc. > > I feel pretty good about "infering" that the number is residential networks > is around 35%, looking at the top-of-the-line number and looking at other > population metrics we collect. > > Nowhere near 80% :(. Sometimes a home router "supports" UPnP, but it's not > activated by default. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ipv6-ops-bounces+christopher.palmer=microsoft....@lists.cluenet.de > [mailto:ipv6-ops-bounces+christopher.palmer=microsoft....@lists.cluenet.de] > On Behalf Of erik.tarald...@telenor.com > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 12:12 AM > To: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de > Subject: SV: Microsoft: Give Xbox One users IPv6 connectivity > > I don't have numbers for other markets, but in Norway I would say more than > 80% have UPnP enabled gateways. At least the ISP I work for have provided > customers with UPnP enabled gateways the last 7+ years. Most devices I can > see in the Norwegian market (online and physical stores) have support for > UPnP. > > But not to derail the discussion to much. Even with UPnP enabled, there are > apparently very different ways to enterpete how to use UPnP. Some clients > fail misserably if they dont get the port they seek, some release the port as > soon as it has been granted (older version of microsoft messenger did this, > caused a lot of cpu usage on the gateways). Some clients do not understand > that they have a port, and proceede to the next port and then use up all > ports on the gateway. > > -Erik Taraldsen > Telenor > > ________________________________________ > Fra: ipv6-ops-bounces+erik.taraldsen=telenor....@lists.cluenet.de > [ipv6-ops-bounces+erik.taraldsen=telenor....@lists.cluenet.de] på vegne > av Mikael Abrahamsson [swm...@swm.pp.se] > Sendt: 11. oktober 2013 06:50 > To: Christopher Palmer > Cc: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de > Emne: RE: Microsoft: Give Xbox One users IPv6 connectivity > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Christopher Palmer wrote: > >> The thing about protocols like UPnP - the vendors who would ignore an >> IETF recommendation are likely to be the same vendors to skip out on >> making an adequate UPnP stack. Most people today do NOT have home >> routers that support UPnP. > Do you have numbers on this? My belief has been that most people today who > care about anything more than web surfing would have a decently new gateway > (less than 3-5 years old) and that this would support UPnP. > > I don't have any numbers so I would like to know more :) > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swm...@swm.pp.se > >
