I second 1+X.

AFAIC, from the beginning, this draft explicitly
considered DHCPv6 (though it was not RFC)
as a stateful mechanism.

"Stateful autoconfiguration is described in [DHCPv6]."
wrote in RFC1971, Aug. 1996.



- Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park)
- Mobile Platform Laboratory, Samsung Electronics.
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Subject: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol


> Regarding issue 277 of rfc2462bis (Semantics of M/O flags), one
> controversial issue is how clearly we should specify the stateful
> address configuration protocol.
>
> The question actually consists of the following two sub-questions:
>
> Question A: how should rfc2462bis specify the stateful protocol?
>
> possible answers:
>   1. clearly say that stateful address configuration is DHCPv6
>   2. (intentionally) do not say anything about this, and (implicitly
>      or explicitly) leave it to the node requirements document
>
> Question B: which references should rfc2462bis have on this matter?
>
> possible answers:
>   X. add an informative reference to RFC3315
>   Y. add an informative reference to node-req
>   Z. add informative references to both RFC3315 and node-req
>   W. do not add any references for this issue (neither RFC3315 nor
node-req)
>
> Opinions vary through the discussion on the mailing list.  The
> followings are main of them I've seen:
>
>
> Ralph Droms seems to prefer "1+X".
>
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/ipv6/current/msg01941.html
>
> John Loughney agreed with Ralph (though he did not show strong opinion
> of his own).
>
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/ipv6/current/msg01940.html
>
> Bernie Volz also seems to prefer "1+X".
>
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/ipv6/current/msg01912.html
>
> Dave Thaler seems to prefer "2+X" or "2+W".
>
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/ipv6/current/msg01918.html
>
> I personally do not have a strong opinion, but we need to move forward
> on this anyway.  If I need to make a choice, I'd also agree with
> Ralph.  In fact, I don't see why we cannot be clear on this after the
> publication of RFC3315.
>
> Perhaps we might want to leave possibilities of future extensions
> (including different "stateful" protocols than DHCPv6) by being
> unclear.  But is this really a feasible reason?
>
> On the other hand, if we keep being unclear, future readers will keep
> wondering what is actually the stateful protocol or whether it's
> just enough to implement DHCPv6, etc.  Even though the node
> requirement document would be able answer the question, they'll have
> to reach the document by themselves if we take Dave's suggestion.
>
> Is there any other reason for not being clear on this (i.e., not
> clearly say the stateful protocol is DHCPv6)?  Or is this just a
> matter of preference?
>
> Again, I myself can live with any resolution as long as we can move
> forward.  So, any productive comments or suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> JINMEI, Tatuya
> Communication Platform Lab.
> Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
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