In some scenarios there is a danger in the following approach:
- hosts boots
- looks for DHCP server, doesn't find one
- Keeps looking every couple of minutes

This leads to inefficient use of power and network resources 
in some wireless devices. A more efficient way to do things is 
to indicate in the RA whether the host should even try to find
a DHCP server. I find the current description in 2461/2bis
sufficient, dynamic and provides enough granularity to allow
hosts to look for what they need (i.e. addresses or "other" config). 

As a side note, we must not force DHCP to be a default address 
configuration mechanism in IPv6. Stateless address config actually
provides a very useful and timely way of configuring addresses 
for mobile nodes.

Hesham


 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > Behalf Of
 > Ralph Droms
 > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 2:34 PM
 > To: ipv6@ietf.org; dhcwg@ietf.org
 > Subject: Re: meta thoughts on m/o bits
 > 
 > 
 > Well...DHCPv6 doesn't have any better mechanism for announcing
 > availability of a server than does DHCPv4 (which is to say "none").
 > There has not been an identified need to push an announcement of DHCP
 > server availability out to clients.
 > 
 > Section 14 of RFC 3315 specifies the retransmission behavior for DHCP
 > clients.  When that behavior is interpreted for Solicit messages in
 > section 17.1.2, the result is that the DHCP client continues to
 > retransmit Solicit messages at low frequency (once every 2 minutes)
 > forever.  Therefore, the client will eventually contact the 
 > DHCP service
 > when a server becomes available.
 > 
 > - Ralph
 > 
 > On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 13:53 -0400, Thomas Narten wrote:
 > > > This proposal looks better and easy to understand. However,
 > > > if we just rely on timeout for concluding the 
 > unavailabiliy of DHCP server,
 > > > how does the client re-invoke DHCP if the DHCP server is 
 > available later in 
 > > > time? I think we need one bit to inform the clients about the
 > > > availabilty of DHCP
 > > > services in the network.
 > > 
 > > I would assume that DHC has mechanisms for discovering when DHC
 > > servers come on line. I.e., the client just sits quietly 
 > in background.
 > > 
 > > Sure, an RA bit could also signal the availability of a new server,
 > > but I would first like to be convinced that the existing 
 > default DHC
 > > mechanism isn't good enough for handling this case (better 
 > not to have
 > > multiple ways of acheiving the same result).
 > > 
 > > Thomas
 > > 
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