Erik,

I know how to configure off-link on a router. I was asking the
community. At least the people we pinged in the past in the community
didn't know how or didn't reply including Hesham.

How off-link is configured is described in section 2.1, and 2.2.1 of our
draft. Your explanation below for the section 2.1 is fine. As for the
off-link suggestion you make below for AdvOnLinkFlag=False, folks might
not agree with you on just setting L-bit in RA to be clear and off-link
is signaled. Here is one reason why. Snipped below is text from section
2.3 on our draft.

[An on-link bit of clear indicates nothing regarding on-link
determination. In section 6.3.4 of draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2461bis-11
(Narten, T., Nordmark, E., Simpson, W., and H. Soliman, "Neighbor
Discovery for IP Version 6 (IPv6)," March 2007.) [NDbis]": 

"...a Prefix Information Option with on-link flag set to zero conveys no
information concerning on-link determination and MUST NOT be interpreted
to mean that addresses covered by the prefix are off-link.... Prefixes
with the on-link flag set to zero would normally have the autonomous
flag set and be used by [ADDRCONF]."]

Did we miss anything in the interpretation of the text above from RFC
4861. This text is not clear.

Thanks.

Hemant

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Nordmark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:46 PM
To: Hemant Singh (shemant)
Cc: Suresh Krishnan; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Off-link and on-link

Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote:
> Good question, Erik. To the best of my knowledge such an RFC does not 
> exist - at least describing total details of an aggregation router - 
> like unicast, mcast, and anycast data forwarding rules etc.  The 
> closest I have found in IETF is what IETF calls as multi-link router.

FWIW I don't find "multi-link router" in any RFC. My point was that
using this undefined term doesn't help clarify things. It would have
been better to talk about a router which has been configured to never
send any redirects.

> Now the question I asked in my presentation. I have to configure this 
> aggregation router to signal off-link. How do I do that?

By not to configuring it to enable the L flag for any prefix that the
router advertized. Abstractly (per RFC 4861) this is done by setting
AdvOnLinkFlag=False.

If you have a question on how to do that for a particular product you
should ask the vendor of that product. If you are using OpenSolaris I
can help.

> As I said in the presentation, let's forget the aggregation router. 
> The host implementation bug we found is reproduced in an Ethernet LAN 
> network too. An RA from the router was sent where RA was NOT signaling

> on-link and the host still behaved as on-link for traffic forwarding.

That is clearly a bug in the host implementation.
Have you contacted the host vendor?

> The RA we used was an RA that did not send any PIO (Prefix Information

> Option). BTW, such a case (RA with no PIO) is not even covered by the 
> definition of on- and off-link in section 2.1 of RFC 4861, especially 
> since section 2.1 goes to so much copious details to describe on-link.

It does cover it. If no information is know about an address (which is
this case - no prefix options with L=1 and no redirects) then the host
will send to a default router.

    Erik

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