On 23/07/2013 09:12, Mark ZZZ Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Firstly, I support advancing this draft.
> 
> Some suggested changes:
> 
> "  This has no known harmful effect as long as the
>    replicated MAC addresses and IIDs are used on different layer 2
>    links.  If they are used on the same link, of course there will be a
>    problem, to be detected by duplicate address detection [RFC4862], but
>    such a problem can usually only be resolved by human intervention."
> 
> I think it would be worth pointing out that the link layer is most likely to 
> fail to operate with duplicate link layer addresses, before DAD has a chance 
> to detect duplicate IPv6 addresses.

OK.

> 
> "  Also, there is
>    evidence from the field that IEEE MAC addresses with "u" = 0 are
>    sometime incorrectly assigned to multiple MAC interfaces.  Firstly,
>    there are recurrent reports of manufacturers assigning the same MAC
>    address to multiple devices. Secondly, significant re-use of the
>    same virtual MAC address is reported in virtual machine environments. "
> 
> I found this text a bit confusing. The '"u" = 0' term read like it was 
> referring to locally unique IEEE MAC addresses ("unique equals no"), and then 
> the 2nd sentence is referring to globally unique (but duplicated and 
> therefore not actually globally unique) MAC addresses, u = 1 in an IPv6 IID, 
> the opposite of what the previous sentence was referring to. Then the third 
> sentence seems to be describing to what the first sentence was referring to. 
> I think the cause of the confusion might be that IEEE use the "locally 
> assigned" bit to distinguish locally generated or not (i.e., "l" = 0 for 
> globally unique), where as IPv6 IIDs have renamed it to "u" bit when the 
> value is inverted. I'd suggest trying to ensure the IEEE terminology is used 
> when IEEE addresses are discussed to make it clearer what the properties of 
> the IEEE address are.

Yep. I remember complaining when the bit inversion was first proposed
that it would lead to years of confusion. Which IEEE standard is the
basic reference for their terminology?

    Brian
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