Nasir Bhai,
On the technical side they have not satisfied ISPAK and on the customer side
once connected to the national backbone (Our Pride and Joy) one should not
have to worry about a 15 day downtime. A good satellite backup would take
care of this problem.
Why should we invest in a backup circuit in order to use STM1 bandwidth,
another burden on the ISP's?.
The demand is for QOS??.. I guess there is no QOS for STM1 considering
downtime of 15 days, backbone router being overloaded, high ping times and
no CIR based design.
Regards,
Aly Ramzan
CubeXS
----- Original Message -----
From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "SANAULLAH BHUTTA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Faisal Naseer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "ispak mailing list"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB
NETCOMMUNICATION SERVICES
>
> Bhutta Sahib,
>
> You forgot to mention our demand for a CIR based design from STM-1, and
> SLA.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nasir.
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, SANAULLAH BHUTTA wrote:
>
> > Janab Dr.Sahib,
> > AoA,
> > All our matters with PTCL are moving very much positive. The delay to
demand note to applicants was due to our proposal that there should be a
back-up with the applicant so we are making a policy on it. Second, the
condition of QoS was also under consideration with Mr.Salman Ansari sahib .
ISPAK had a useful meeting with Mr.Ansari and ISPAK We proposed a
alternative proposal for QoS to Mr.Salman Ansari and are waiting his
feed-back.
> >
> > PTCL was going to issues demand note but I requested not to issue till
we solve the issue of back-up and QoS.
> >
> > Back-up issue is very much important. If a user have this single source
and there is breach of cable , the restoration will takes minimum 15 days,
then he will start to cry. I desire to avoid this situation
> >
> > Connectivity on STM-1 should only be given to those who have already
back-up or PTCL arranges itself as it being done through TIER-1 , .the
second issue of QoS is most important and it should also be decided mutually
MOST and ISPAK. other wise there will arise many disputes
> >
> > I apology for inconvenience to you on direct approaching to you from
our member on this issue..
> >
> > Wish all the best.
> > Sanaullah Bhutta.
> > president ISPAK.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Faisal Naseer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Sanaullah Bhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; salman ansari
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; member it <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Secretary IT&Tel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; PTCL N. Baqai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Friday, July 06, 2001 5:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB NET
COMMUNICATION SERVICES
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Faisal Naseer,
> > Thank you for your e-mail dated 05 July 2001. As you are aware it
is only about two weeks that the submarine cable became operative. You said
that your application has been pending for two months but this is
irrelevant, since the facilities were not previously available.
> >
> > I am now writing to PTCL to provide you the necessary internet
connectivity expeditiously. I hope that will soon be done.
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > --
> > Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman
> > Minister for Science & Technology
> > D-Block Pak Secretariat
> > Islamabad 44000
> > Pakistan
> >
> > Tel: 92 51 920 2502, 9208026
> > Fax: 92 51 920 5233
> >
> >
> > Faisal Naseer wrote:
> >
> > Dear Bhutta Sb, Thank you for your email, as i recall i did send
you a fax of the unsigned demand note and talked to you on the phone about
this. We received the demand note today but were informed by competent PTCL
employees that the link has been down for a week now and it is
non-restorable , i.e if the link goes down we will not have the option of a
backup link. If this is the case then i dont think it will be feasible for
any ISP to switch over on the STM-1 without backup. I hope this missing
backup link problem can be organised soon as it will be beneficial to both
PTCL and ISP/DNOP's. regards,Faisal Naseer
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sanaullah Bhutta
> > To: Faisal Naseer ; Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman ; salman ansari ;
member it ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Secretary IT&Tel ; PTCL N. Baqai ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB
NET COMMUNICATION SERVICES
> > It would be better if you consult us prior to write to
Minister direct.Best regards.Bhutta
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Faisal Naseer
> > To: Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman ; salman ansari ; member it ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Secretary IT&Tel ; PTCL N. Baqai ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; SANAULLAH BHUTTA
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:09 PM
> > Subject: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB
NET COMMUNICATION SERVICES
> >
> > **** URGENT ****
> > Dear Pro. Atta-ur-Rahman, With Reference to our
application for upgrade to 2MBPS on the SEAMEW-3 Fibre Optic Cable on the
New Rates Announced by your goodself and PTCL in the Dawn Newspaper we are
once again put into a very difficult position. Our application for the above
circuit has been pending for the last 2 months now, despite contacting all
concerned departments in Karachi we still have not received our demand note.
Although the demand note is with DE VAS it has not been signed. Despite our
repeated requests to expedite the matter we have been put on the verge of
shutting down our operations. We have already submitted our termination
letter to our half international circuit provider Teleglobe which will
expire on the 31st of July 2001. If PTCL does not issue us the demand note
and provide us with the 2MBPS link before the end of this month in effect
our services will be shut down. It is my request and hope that you will help
us in this situation and i!
> ssue necessary intructions to the concerned PTCL deparments to expidite
our 2MBPS link. Anticipating your always prompt action.Yours Faithfully,
Faisal NaseerChief ExecutiveWeb Net Communication Services Pvt Ltd.Mobile :-
0300-8254-750
> >
>
>
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