WE are working and negotiating as per recommendation made by ISPAK technical Committee head by Mr.Jamal Nasir Khan , all points already have been taken with PTCL and MoST. Best regards, Bhutta -- -----Original Message----- From: Aly Ramzan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: A.R. Nasir Qureshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ispak mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, July 08, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: SEAMEW- 3 - QOS >Nasir Bhai, > >On the technical side they have not satisfied ISPAK and on the customer side >once connected to the national backbone (Our Pride and Joy) one should not >have to worry about a 15 day downtime. A good satellite backup would take >care of this problem. > >Why should we invest in a backup circuit in order to use STM1 bandwidth, >another burden on the ISP's?. > >The demand is for QOS??.. I guess there is no QOS for STM1 considering >downtime of 15 days, backbone router being overloaded, high ping times and >no CIR based design. > >Regards, > >Aly Ramzan >CubeXS >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "SANAULLAH BHUTTA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: "Faisal Naseer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "ispak mailing list" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:04 PM >Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB >NETCOMMUNICATION SERVICES > > >> >> Bhutta Sahib, >> >> You forgot to mention our demand for a CIR based design from STM-1, and >> SLA. >> >> Regards, >> >> Nasir. >> >> >> On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, SANAULLAH BHUTTA wrote: >> >> > Janab Dr.Sahib, >> > AoA, >> > All our matters with PTCL are moving very much positive. The delay to >demand note to applicants was due to our proposal that there should be a >back-up with the applicant so we are making a policy on it. Second, the >condition of QoS was also under consideration with Mr.Salman Ansari sahib . >ISPAK had a useful meeting with Mr.Ansari and ISPAK We proposed a >alternative proposal for QoS to Mr.Salman Ansari and are waiting his >feed-back. >> > >> > PTCL was going to issues demand note but I requested not to issue till >we solve the issue of back-up and QoS. >> > >> > Back-up issue is very much important. If a user have this single source >and there is breach of cable , the restoration will takes minimum 15 days, >then he will start to cry. I desire to avoid this situation >> > >> > Connectivity on STM-1 should only be given to those who have already >back-up or PTCL arranges itself as it being done through TIER-1 , .the >second issue of QoS is most important and it should also be decided mutually >MOST and ISPAK. other wise there will arise many disputes >> > >> > I apology for inconvenience to you on direct approaching to you from >our member on this issue.. >> > >> > Wish all the best. >> > Sanaullah Bhutta. >> > president ISPAK. >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: Faisal Naseer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Cc: Sanaullah Bhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; salman ansari ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; member it <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Secretary IT&Tel ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; PTCL N. Baqai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: Friday, July 06, 2001 5:07 PM >> > Subject: Re: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB NET >COMMUNICATION SERVICES >> > >> > >> > Dear Mr. Faisal Naseer, >> > Thank you for your e-mail dated 05 July 2001. As you are aware it >is only about two weeks that the submarine cable became operative. You said >that your application has been pending for two months but this is >irrelevant, since the facilities were not previously available. >> > >> > I am now writing to PTCL to provide you the necessary internet >connectivity expeditiously. I hope that will soon be done. >> > >> > With kind regards, >> > >> > -- >> > Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman >> > Minister for Science & Technology >> > D-Block Pak Secretariat >> > Islamabad 44000 >> > Pakistan >> > >> > Tel: 92 51 920 2502, 9208026 >> > Fax: 92 51 920 5233 >> > >> > >> > Faisal Naseer wrote: >> > >> > Dear Bhutta Sb, Thank you for your email, as i recall i did send >you a fax of the unsigned demand note and talked to you on the phone about >this. We received the demand note today but were informed by competent PTCL >employees that the link has been down for a week now and it is >non-restorable , i.e if the link goes down we will not have the option of a >backup link. If this is the case then i dont think it will be feasible for >any ISP to switch over on the STM-1 without backup. I hope this missing >backup link problem can be organised soon as it will be beneficial to both >PTCL and ISP/DNOP's. regards,Faisal Naseer >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Sanaullah Bhutta >> > To: Faisal Naseer ; Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman ; salman ansari ; >member it ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Secretary IT&Tel ; PTCL N. Baqai ; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:28 PM >> > Subject: Re: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB >NET COMMUNICATION SERVICES >> > It would be better if you consult us prior to write to >Minister direct.Best regards.Bhutta >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Faisal Naseer >> > To: Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman ; salman ansari ; member it ; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Secretary IT&Tel ; PTCL N. Baqai ; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; SANAULLAH BHUTTA >> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:09 PM >> > Subject: SEAMEW- 3 - DEMAND NOTE ISSANCE PROBLEMS - WEB >NET COMMUNICATION SERVICES >> > >> > **** URGENT **** >> > Dear Pro. Atta-ur-Rahman, With Reference to our >application for upgrade to 2MBPS on the SEAMEW-3 Fibre Optic Cable on the >New Rates Announced by your goodself and PTCL in the Dawn Newspaper we are >once again put into a very difficult position. Our application for the above >circuit has been pending for the last 2 months now, despite contacting all >concerned departments in Karachi we still have not received our demand note. >Although the demand note is with DE VAS it has not been signed. Despite our >repeated requests to expedite the matter we have been put on the verge of >shutting down our operations. We have already submitted our termination >letter to our half international circuit provider Teleglobe which will >expire on the 31st of July 2001. If PTCL does not issue us the demand note >and provide us with the 2MBPS link before the end of this month in effect >our services will be shut down. It is my request and hope that you will help >us in this situation and i! >> ssue necessary intructions to the concerned PTCL deparments to expidite >our 2MBPS link. Anticipating your always prompt action.Yours Faithfully, >Faisal NaseerChief ExecutiveWeb Net Communication Services Pvt Ltd.Mobile :- >0300-8254-750 >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------- ISPAK -------------------------- >> ISPAK Discussion List. Members are limited to officials of >> ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives. >> -------------- http://ispak.net.pk ----------------------- >> > > > >------------------------- ISPAK -------------------------- >ISPAK Discussion List. Members are limited to officials of >ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives. >-------------- http://ispak.net.pk ----------------------- >
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