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Bjorn Beskow commented on CAMEL-23283:
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it makes no difference (to my 
understanding, 
{{{}Observation{}}}{{{}.createNotStarted(){}}}{{{}.observe({}){}}}is just 
syntactic sugar for using the Tracer as you suggest).

Our observability requirements are to
 * have identical structure for tracing and logs from both vanilla Spring Boot 
and Spring Boot/Camel applications
 * have trace_id, spanId and additional baggage as attributes on both spans and 
logs
 * be able to create custom spans (including giving the span a non-technical 
name and be able to add custom attributes to the span) for significant 
transformations
 * use a common, standardised API when needed to interact programmatically with 
the observability platform

If I interpret you correctly, this cannot be achieved with 
camel-micrometer-observability.

So, we'll switch to using opentelemetry-api and the opentelemetry agent for 
both our Spring Boot and Spring Boot/Camel applications (using 
camel-opentelemetry2).

Thanks for looking into it.

 

 

> OpenTelemetry/Micrometer traces are not correctly structured for 
> JMS-initiated routes
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-23283
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-23283
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Task
>          Components: camel-tracing
>    Affects Versions: 4.15.0, 4.16.0, 4.17.0, 4.18.0, 4.18.1
>            Reporter: Bjorn Beskow
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: jms-micrometer-observability.zip
>
>
> When using camel-micrometer-observability, traces and spans are not correctly 
> structured if a traceId and root span is not already present (as a result of 
> OTEL context propagation from the caller, or by a Spring Boot framework 
> component in front of the camel component).
> The effect is twofold:
>  * traceId and spanId is not put in the MDC context, and hence not present in 
> any logs created.
>  * Nested spans created programmatically using the Micrometer Observation API 
> are not properly nested (they get their own, unique traceId's).
> The attached sample project pinpoints the problem: For an exchange with a 
> "traceparent" propagated from the caller, everything works as expected. For 
> an exchange without a propagated existing trace, the tests show that the MDC 
> is not properly populated and any nested spans have the wrong structure.
> This seems to be caused by missing scope management: 
> MicrometerObservabilitySpanAdapter::activate() only calls span.start() but 
> doesn't put the
> span into the tracer's thread-local scope. This means tracer.currentSpan() 
> returns null during route execution, hence the span is invisible to e.g. 
> programmatic child span creation that relies on tracer.currentSpan() to find 
> a parent span (for example via the ObservationRegistry). It also becomes 
> invisible for the MDC context.



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