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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Christoph Wagner [mailto:[email protected]]

> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:08 PM

> To: 'Post all your questions about iText here'

> Subject: Re: [iText-questions] v2.x continuity

>

> > And for what... the price for a license of iText? What corporation

> > would

> > balance the potential for multi-hundreds of thousands of dollar lawsuit

> > against $2000 or whatever it might be. It will cost the company more

> > than $2000 in legal fees to review the LGPL and its use in iText.

>

> The problem here is that iText is much more expensive if someone want to

> ship it with a native client application installed on several thousand

> computers where the PDF printing is just a little feature of thousands of

> others. It would be no problem to pay 2000$ for a general license but the

> current license scheme is ridiculous because it would force license buyers

> to report number of client installations back to you which are then used

> to

> come up with the amount of money to pay.

> That's simply not acceptable for such a small library. For example the

> xPDF

> library which renders PDF on any imaginable platform (and contains much

> more

> complicated code than iText)



[Erik Pfingsten] Have you actually looked at the source code for both projects. 
 They both looked pretty complicated to me.  Your statement that xPDF "contains 
much more complicated code than iText" is spurious at best.  Not to mention, 
xPDF is (gross over-generalization) for viewing PDF's, iText is for creating 
PDF's.  Not saying one is simpler than the other, but it's like comparing LCD 
Screens and Digital Camera's (I would have said apples and oranges, but that 
seems soooo 20th century :-)



> is a one-pay 1500$ lib with no further

> restrictions (OEM). If the same would apply for iText I would be happy to

> pay but with the current licensing scheme: no thanks...



[Erik Pfingsten] Looking at xPDF's "purchase" page 
(http://www.glyphandcog.com/buy.html), you need developer licenses AND Run-Time 
licenses.  Your "native client application installed on several thousand 
computers"...let's just say 5000 computers as a nice round number...would cost 
$50,000 ($1,000 per 100 run-time licenses), and in a way, you would essentially 
be reporting how many apps you sold every time you bought a new 100 pack of 
licenses.  Oh, and that appears to be PER component (want to print those pdf's 
you can view? it looks to me like another set of licenses, although maybe I'm 
wrong on that)



[Erik Pfingsten] You say xPDF has $1500 license for OEM's?  Have you actually 
contacted iText Commercial to see what they would charge?  Maybe they have a 
large volume OEM type license available too (oh wait...what's this? 
http://itextpdf.com/terms-of-use/index.php).  Or maybe they are willing to work 
with you to come to a reasonable amount...



> Another thing to keep in mind: the responses on this list on bug reports

> or

> questions are usually one of these:

>

> 1. Buy the book without any further explanation or just a short hint where to 
> find something

[Erik Pfingsten] or a pointer to the source code examples on the website that 
you can look at, not to mention the api documentation, sample chapters. Oh, and 
more often than not, an actual solution in the email response

> 2. You are using the old version, we won't help you because of that

[Erik Pfingsten] Last time I checked, Microsoft doesn't offer support for 
Windows 3.1 either

> 3. Sometimes no response at all

[Erik Pfingsten] really, I've never seen a question that wasn't answered at 
some point

>

> This behavior does not match the price point of your lib and really does not 
> encourages one to buy.

[Erik Pfingsten] My understanding has always been that this list is for support 
of the "free" iText (for lack of a better way to put it).  I believe that 
Commercial users (companies that buy licenses) get priority support through a 
support contact.



But to put it bluntly...to say that the responders on this list are not helpful 
(which is the essence of your argument), is a load of crap



That's just my 2c.

Erik

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