On 9/17/07, Scheper, Erik-Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Before starting a vote thread, wouldn't it be better to clear some > outstanding issues: > -Is it still intended to graduate as an ant subproject? (I seem to > remember that I read this some time ago)
We agreed on graduating as an Ant subproject a few months ago: http://www.nabble.com/Destination-upon-graduation-%28was-Re%3A-Steps-toward-graduation%29-tf3882862.html#a11004970 As far as I'm concerned, I still think this is the best option for Ivy. But I invite anybody who would like to discuss this further to talk freely in this thread. -What are the requirements for graduation as (sub)project? The graduation guide has a good explanation about that: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html When we discussed about the steps toward graduation last june, the only remaining point was checking the project name: http://www.nabble.com/Steps-toward-graduation-%28was-Re%3A-Report-this-month%29-tf3882513.html#a11054911 So I think we are ready to start a graduation vote. But if you want to discuss that, I'm open to discussion, I don't know the graduation process very well. -Wouldn't it be better to wait until an incubating release (better than > alpha-2) is complete? The beta-1 release has been delayed for some time > now I personnally don't think so. Graduation is not about code quality or release quality. We have demonstrated we are able to make releases. Being late on a release is a problem we frequently encounter in an open source project. Committers sometime have less time than expected to work on a release, but I don't think it's too much a problem, the community is still there, answering questions, and developing the upcoming version. And I would really prefer to make the 2.0 final version as a graduated project. I've been following the cxf incubating project (merge of xfire and > celtix), and they're mostly concerned about diversity (see > http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Graduating.....-p12042463.html). > -How about diversity in the ivy project. I feel inclined that it's > greater than in cxf (mostly iona people), but is it enough? We are 3 committers, all from different employers. It's the minimum required... it's not great, and I would like to have a more diverse and bigger committer community, but I think it's enough to graduate, and graduation will help to gather more people. The votes (or the discussion) may tell the opposite though. Do somebody think diversity is a problem? Xavier Anyone else? > > > Regards, > > Erik-Berndt Scheper > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Xavier Hanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: maandag 17 september 2007 9:08 > Aan: [email protected] > Onderwerp: Re: What about Graduation? > > > On 9/17/07, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I was about to start this discussion again, to see where we are. > > > Last time we discussed the subject it seemed that the only point to > > > solve was checking the project name for trademarks. According to my > > > investigation, Ivy is not a trademark in software, and it doesn't > > > seem to be a problem to use Ivy from what I've collected on > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] among other information. But IANAL, so I can't be > > > sure my investigation is enough. So, do you think we can consider > > > this point cleared? > > > > Yes, I think you can consider it cleared. > > > > > If so, do you see something else we still need to address to > > > graduate? > > > > No, that's why I started the thread. 8-) > > > OK, so I'll start a vote thread soon :-) > > Xavier > > Stefan > > > > > > -- > Xavier Hanin - Independent Java Consultant http://xhab.blogspot.com/ > http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/ http://www.xoocode.org/ > > Disclaimer: > This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential > and is the property of Sogeti Nederland B.V. or its Group members. It is > intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, > disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you > receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and > delete all copies of this message. > -- Xavier Hanin - Independent Java Consultant http://xhab.blogspot.com/ http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/ http://www.xoocode.org/
