On 9/17/07, Scheper, Erik-Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The proposed voting order seems ok to me.
>
> Please note that I didn't say that the 2.0 final release should be done
> as an incubator project; I was just wondering what's customary.


That's fine, we appreciate your participation in the community.

Notwithstanding my previous post, I would love to see ivy graduated as
> an ant subproject. I use it (almost) every day...


Thanks, satisfied users is the best reward for the time spent on the
project!

Xavier

Erik-Berndt
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Gilles Scokart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: maandag 17 september 2007 11:11
> Aan: [email protected]
> Onderwerp: RE: What about Graduation?
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Xavier Hanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: lundi 17 septembre 2007 10:41
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: What about Graduation?
> >
> > On 9/17/07, Scheper, Erik-Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Before starting a vote thread, wouldn't it be better to clear some
> > > outstanding issues: -Is it still intended to graduate as an ant
> > > subproject? (I seem to remember that I read this some time ago)
> >
> >
> > We agreed on graduating as an Ant subproject a few months ago:
> > http://www.nabble.com/Destination-upon-graduation-%28was-Re%3A-Steps-
> > toward-graduation%29-tf3882862.html#a11004970
> >
>
> You are right, we were all agreeing on that.  But that should be
> formalized with a vote.  Isn't it?
>
> Also, a vote the ant-dev mailing list will be required.
>
> But I'm not sure in which order we should make those votes...  I propose
>
> 1. Vote here on destination after graduation
> 2. Ask for a vote on the ant-dev mailing list (if vote 1. result is as
> expected)
> 3. Fire the vote here to decide if we are ready to graduate (if the
> result of vote 2. is as expected, and depending on the outcomes of this
> discussion) 4. If ok, ask the vote on the incubator list.
>
>
>
> >
> > -Wouldn't it be better to wait until an incubating release (better
> > than
> > > alpha-2) is complete? The beta-1 release has been delayed for some
> > > time now
> >
> >
> > I personnally don't think so. Graduation is not about code quality or
> > release quality. We have demonstrated we are able to make releases.
> > Being late on a release is a problem we frequently encounter in an
> > open source project. Committers sometime have less time than expected
> > to work on a release, but I don't think it's too much a problem, the
> > community is still there, answering questions, and developing the
> > upcoming version. And I would really prefer to make the 2.0 final
> > version as a graduated project.
> >
>
> I have the same understanding.
>
>
>
> Gilles
>
>
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