Sebastien Lelong wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> 
> 
>> He originally sold an 16F84A and then went to a 16F628A.  The code and
>> command set to the controller is on his site and the Wulfden site.  As
>> the command set is pertinent only to the chips he sells, and the more he
>> sells the better it is for him, I see no reason why he would complain if
>> someone made a library to control his chips.
> 
> 
> That would be no problem for a library controlling his chips, but it might
> be a problem if we provide the controller code itself.

If you mean the protected code in the (now) 16F648, unless someone 
reverse engineers it, how would that happen?  Why would jallib care what 
is in the K107 chip itself as long as the commands to control it are, as 
far as I can see, public property.  The command set has been published, 
along with samples of how to use it, for many years now.

> This is what I'd like
> to do: providing jal code so people can program it to their favorite PIC,
> and build their own K107 controller.

If you mean making their own PCB and putting his chip in it, it can be 
done now.  The schematics are published in the K107 manual.  If you mean
getting the code in the K107 chip itself, I don't see that happening and 
would not feel right about that.  It is not free code.  He developed it 
and is selling the chip (with his code) for others to use and shows them 
how to use it.

  So the question is: can we, do we have
> the right to implement the K107 protocol, or is it something he, and only
> he, can do ?

If by 'protocol' you mean the command set, I would think he would 
welcome it.  He already has example programs in different languages. If 
you mean the code he created, then no.

> 
> I've searched too, no copyright notice. Could you also ask him if we have
> the permission to implement the K107 protocol ? (again, completely different
> from providing a lib to access a K107 controller. Let me know if I'm not
> clear enough, at the present time, I tend to write things no one can
> understand. I myself barely can...). If we can't, we may need to design our
> own protocol... Not a big deal, but just a waste of time.
>

I really need you to define just what you mean by 'protocol'.  I hope 
you mean the command codes. Otherwise I am confused as to why you would 
think he would supply the source code for something he is selling?

> 
>> BTW Is Eur OK?  I have not seen any posts lately and am hoping he is
>> also, just busy.
> 
> 
> It's been a while he's not posted here. I remember he "recently" posted on
> jallist. We often tried to catch his attention ("Eur ?" in subject, like
> this one). I guess (and hope) he's just very busy.
> 

Yes, me too.

Regards

Wayne



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