On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Sebastien Lelong <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> 2010/10/22 vasile surducan <[email protected]>
>
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>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM, vasile surducan <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM, vasile surducan 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Sebastien Lelong <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vasile,
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/10/22 vasile surducan <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Seb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks to me that you have understand well that different DC motors
>>>>>> will give you different EMF values:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sirloon.net/loonaweb/sirblog/experimenting-back-emf-motion-feedback
>>>>>> <http://sirloon.net/loonaweb/sirblog/experimenting-back-emf-motion-feedback>So,
>>>>>> that's it, a poor method using an analog feedback, if you want universal
>>>>>> solutions seems to me you have to switch on digital feedback, which as 
>>>>>> far I
>>>>>> know can't be EMF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean something like encoded wheels ? bemf is really nice to have
>>>>> because it's not invasive, you can control any DC motors without modifying
>>>>> the structure (which is great when hacking RC toys)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't do it without modifying dividers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is electronic that limited ?? C'mon, there should be a trick !
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Variable gain amplifier. It modifying dividers in software keeping the
>>>> ADC resolution constant. Still a s**t...
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>    There is another way: when read EMF the motor acts as a generator.
>>> Loading it with a variable resistive load (switched digitally using some
>>> transistors) will decrease the EMF level as you wish. However that will
>>> brake the motor as well, as high as the load becomes lower. Probably with 2
>>> loads you can use two different DC motors.
>>> Do you intend to manufacture some kits?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, thats the best ideea: an active load (programmable constant current
>> source)
>>
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> Any readings about this (for humans) ?
>

Send me the schematic (or link) of your H bridge or whatever you have for
supplying the motor.

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>> driven by the 16 level internal reference voltage, switched on the motor
>> coil only when back EMF is read.
>>
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> 16 levels internal reference voltage ? What do you mean ?
>

http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/40044f.pdf
<http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/40044f.pdf>take a look at
page 67, you have in fact 32 different voltage levels (VR0 to VR3 plus VRR).
Use this voltage from RA2 and drive a programmable current constant source
connected in short circuit on the motor.

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>
> Thanks,
> Seb
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