Whoeps Vasile, that looks great.......... now see what and how........ 
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Op woensdag 16 november 2022 om 19:41:34 UTC+1 schreef vasile:

> Hello senior contributor,
> there are at least two serious software for filter computing named 
> Filterpro from TI and Elsie from Tone software,  both free at the time I've 
> work with. Each is excellent just for a segment of filters...not for 
> everything.
>
>
> On Wed 16 Nov 2022, 10:21 AM hans <hanz...@zeelandnet.nl wrote:
>
>> Hello highly honored public,
>>
>> I did some research in low/high pass filter science and found a lot of 
>> calculation programs.
>>
>> In the contribution of Kiste 20 Mar. 2022 13:22:10 an R value of 680 .. 1 
>> K is indicated and a C value of 1uF. The system works with 5 and 8 kHz. 
>> When I run the found calculation tool on it, I get very different values. I 
>> must be completely wrong again, but the transmitter and receiver do work, 
>> only with glitches.
>>
>> My question is outside the JALLIB world but I'll try anyway.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Hans
>>
>> Op maandag 14 november 2022 om 21:19:26 UTC+1 schreef hans:
>>
>>> Hi Kiste,
>>>
>>> Sometimes I have to push things aside. So is this topic. I have taken up 
>>> the matter again and on my pin board both the transmitter and the receiver 
>>> work with a 12F683 at 1200 baud. I did put a 100nF in series at the output 
>>> according to your diagram. I also put a similar filter in the input of the 
>>> receiver. Identical to your proposal but because I know absolutely nothing 
>>> about filter matters I don't know if I did this right.
>>>
>>> I feed a separate uart signal as input and read out another uart with 
>>> the receiver.
>>>
>>> I recorded the signal with audicity and saved it as WAV. When playing 
>>> back to the receiver I do get responses but there is quite a bit of junk.
>>>
>>> My question : what should the inlet filter to the receiver look like.
>>>
>>> I know your box of thanks is already full, but I'll add another one.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> Op zondag 19 juni 2022 om 12:46:36 UTC+2 schreef hans:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I've tried many things, but I always had problems. I have now received 
>>>> a handful of MT8880 from china and this time they all worked. Even when I 
>>>> apply this I regularly have malfunctions, but if I repeat every command 3 
>>>> times and check then it works. I'm a bit further, only the person I was 
>>>> working for has unfortunately chosen something else. So this will go in 
>>>> the 
>>>> "you can't know box" for now.
>>>> We continue happily, it remains fun.
>>>> regards
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> Op dinsdag 5 april 2022 om 19:57:25 UTC+2 schreef rob...@hotmail.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kiste,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice solution. Hans has options to select from 🙂.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW. @hans. I made as small error in  my hardware receiver solution. 
>>>>> Capacitor C3 should be 2nF (two 1nF in parallel) but if I where you I 
>>>>> would 
>>>>> try Kiste's solution first. If that works you are done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *Van:* 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib <jal...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 5 april 2022 19:12
>>>>>
>>>>> *Aan:* jal...@googlegroups.com <jal...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
>>>>> I have only made small changes in the code and improved the comments. 
>>>>> I did not try this version, but I'm quite sure it should work. You only 
>>>>> need a PIC, a resistor, a TTL-Serial converter with a computer and the 
>>>>> sample audio file which i posted earlier to see it working.
>>>>>
>>>>> (You can even omit the resistor, but you could fry the PIC then. 
>>>>> Especially if you don't use the error LED and have no idea about what 
>>>>> volume to set)
>>>>>
>>>>> Greets,
>>>>> Kiste
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Dienstag, 5. April 2022, 12:05:59 MESZ hat hans <
>>>>> hansvanve...@gmail.com> Folgendes geschrieben: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rob and Kiste, 
>>>>> The next days i have a friend who can assist me. So (beside his AC 
>>>>> project) we might find time to continue with this . So please give us the 
>>>>> last info.
>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>> hans 
>>>>>
>>>>> Op zondag 3 april 2022 om 15:57:03 UTC+2 schreef rob...@hotmail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>>
>>>>> I also tried it with a lower frequency, 3330 Hz for the low tone and 
>>>>> 4030 Hz for the high tone so that the signal is strong enough when you 
>>>>> record it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to know more, let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com <jal...@googlegroups.com> namens hans <
>>>>> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Verzonden:* zondag 3 april 2022 15:11
>>>>> *Aan:* jallib <jal...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
>>>>> Still foggy, just wait a little longer with this case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Op zaterdag 26 maart 2022 om 20:05:55 UTC+1 schreef rob...@hotmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hans, 
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you are getting well soon. Last update. I recorded the audio 
>>>>> and played it back to see if it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it seems to work but may need some fine tuning. In this video you 
>>>>> see the device in operation: https://youtu.be/w-j0ekk975g
>>>>>
>>>>> The yellow line on the oscilloscope is the audio signal and the blue 
>>>>> line the trigger signal. This trigger signal is also visible by the Amber 
>>>>> LED on the top right of the breadboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recorded the low tone (it is a video recording but I am only using 
>>>>> the audio) and switched from low tone to the high tone frequently. What 
>>>>> you 
>>>>> see is that the signal of the high tone is smaller but it still works. 
>>>>> You 
>>>>> also see that the refresh of the oscilloscope is a bit behind so the LED 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> the breadboard shows the real trigger. I also attached two screenshots. 
>>>>> You 
>>>>> see that the trigger response is quite fast (zoomed in) but with a high 
>>>>> tone it is not constant (see zoomed out) but that can be solved in 
>>>>> software 
>>>>> and could be because the signal is smaller. Also I noticed that when no 
>>>>> signal is present the output is also high but that stops as soon as the 
>>>>> low 
>>>>> tone is detected.
>>>>>
>>>>> So still a proof of concept but seems to do something. I also attached 
>>>>> the audio tone. Maybe lower tones would be better.
>>>>>
>>>>> For recording I just used the output of the PIC using a resistor 
>>>>> divider of 10 k with 100 Ohm and connecting that to the line in of my 
>>>>> computer. For playback I added an LM358 to amplify the input signal and I 
>>>>> used the headphone output.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Op donderdag 24 maart 2022 om 12:47:49 UTC+1 schreef 
>>>>> rob...@hotmail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marieke,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the update. Let's hope Hans recovers soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *Van:* 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib <jal...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 maart 2022 07:37
>>>>>
>>>>> *Aan:* jal...@googlegroups.com <jal...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
>>>>> Altijd met Rust...
>>>>>
>>>>> It took me two weeks to think, code and test, and it will take more 
>>>>> weeks for proper documentation. So no need for you to hurry ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Greets,
>>>>> Kiste
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2022, 22:36:19 MEZ hat hans <
>>>>> hansvanve...@gmail.com> Folgendes geschrieben: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> My grandfather Hans has only one usable eye and has got an infection 
>>>>> on it. We have read your contributions and he is very happy with them. 
>>>>> Sorry but he can't work with it right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Marieke
>>>>>
>>>>> Op woensdag 23 maart 2022 om 17:22:42 UTC+1 schreef Kiste:
>>>>>
>>>>> And here's the receiver, and a sample file. Mp3 does work at 1200baud, 
>>>>> but you shouldn't use less than 128kbit for encoding. At 80kbit I only 
>>>>> got 
>>>>> garbage. Volume must be reasonably high, slowly turn louder until the 
>>>>> error 
>>>>> LED is constantly off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't send too much data back-to-back, have pauses of like 10 ms every 
>>>>> second (but keep the tone on all the time)
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't assume error-free transmission, send data multiple times and 
>>>>> check when receiving.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greets,
>>>>> Kiste
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 20. März 2022, 13:22:14 MEZ hat 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib <
>>>>> jal...@googlegroups.com> Folgendes geschrieben: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> here's my encoder. I looked for something similar to the 12F683 which 
>>>>> Hans has in stock, and found some 12F629, which should be quite 
>>>>> compatible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> C1: minimum 1µF, no need to be polarized
>>>>> R1:680R..1k
>>>>> C2: 100nF
>>>>> R2:1k..4k7
>>>>> D1=D2: 1N4148, 1N4001 or similar, silicon, not schottky
>>>>>
>>>>> This gives a frequency which a line (AUX) audio input should be able 
>>>>> to handle. The receiver will be the same kind of chip, but it must have a 
>>>>> comparator and a reference voltage module. TMR0 will be used. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The transmitter will work on any 6 or 8 pin controller, as it doesn't 
>>>>> use any peripherals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greets,
>>>>> Kiste
>>>>>
>>>>>
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