on 10/3/2000 1:36 PM, "Serge Knystautas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, although this argument is compelling, I'd still like to discuss the
> idea a bit more.  I'm wondering how much benefit does it give the lay user
> over the basic file system storage.  In theory it should provide more
> reliability... if a file is getting saved when the JVM is forcibly stopped,
> the file might get corrupted (or only 1 of the 2 files gets deleted), while
> using a database (java or otherwise) would get around this.  This is the
> most compelling issue for me.  I do have a concern about Java memory
> usage... I think we'd have to run HSQL in a separate JVM to avoid
> OutOfMemory errors when handling very large files.  That creates process
> management issues since that will be a second process started/stopped.
> Loading a multimegabyte email message into memory is going to be cumbersome
> as it is.

You missed my point serge. The suggestion to use HSQL seemed to me based on
a "getting started" type of idea. In other words, download JAMES and here
you go with a way to do development as well as small scale deployment with a
SQL database. I'm not advocating using HSQL as a replacement for something
like MySQL or Oracle.

> Looking through the docs, one of the current restrictions kind of jumped out
> at me:  "The size of Binary data is limited to about 32 KB (because UTF is
> used) "  Does this mean I can't have a LONGVARBINARY (or LONGVARCHAR) more
> than 32k?  If this is the case, we can pretty much stop considering it an
> option, so I'm hoping it's not.

Yes, that would suck. I don't know the answer.

-jon

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