Arian wrote:
> First, a clause. Which of the below clauses would be best to
> describe, "The missile that exploded":
First point: passive voice ("sareru") requires an outside
actor to create the event. If you say bakuhatsu sareta,
you're not saying "it exploded" -- you're saying "it WAS
exploded" -- someone caused that to happen.
Second point: Some really eccentric Japanese. The Japanese
word for "missile" is "misairu" (think of the British
pronunciation for "missile"). "Tobidogu" is missile in the
sense of anything thrown or tossed (like an arrow, a rock,
or a dart). Likewise, the generic word for gun is "jû" or
something (one of several possibilities) with "-hô" in it.
"Tsutsu" means cylinder, jug, vase... Never heard it used
for gun.
> 1. Bakuhatsu sareta tobidôgu
"The missile that WAS EXPLODED (by some outside force)."
> 2. Bakuhatsu shita tobidôgu
"The missile that EXPLODED."
> 3. Jibun ni bakuhatsu sareta tobidôgu
Jibun *de* bakuhatsu *shita* *misairu* -- "the missile that
blew up on its own."
> 4. Jibun no bakuhatsu shita tobidôgu
Ick.
> To express, "The building that was exploded by the missile", which
> of the following is better?
>
> 1. Tobidôgu ni bakuhatsu sareta tatemono
"The building that WAS EXPLODED by the 'missile'."
> 2. Tatemono wo bakuhatsu shita tobidôgu
"The 'missile' that exploded the building."
> And to express "The missile that was exploded by a bullet from a
> gun", which of the following is more appropiate?
>
> 1. Tsutsu kara no tama ni bakuhatsu sareta tobidôgu
Jû no tama de bakuhatsu sareta misairu -- the missile that
was exploded by a gun's bullet.
> 2. Tsutsu kara no tama no bakuhatsu shita tobidôgu
Jû no tama no bakuhatsu shita misairu -- the missile that
the gun's bullet exploded.
Tony
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