+1 from me (Axis->Attic). Lot's of good memories :) Thanks Shane. -- Dims
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > (bcc: general@, c-dev@, board@ for FYI) > > Since there hasn't been any response to the below email by any PMC > members (or indeed any community members), it may be time Axis to go to > the Apache Attic, and turn the entire project read-only. > > To be blunt: if there are not three active PMC members to ensure that > the board has quarterly reports and the project could vote on a > potential security release, my estimate is that the board will move the > entire Axis project to the Attic no later than the November board > meeting, possibly earlier. > > I strongly urge any PMC members or even committers on the project to > step up, propose a new PMC chair, and work on a report for the board ASAP. > > ---- Some perspective on why board reports are important ---- > > In the governance model at the ASF the board delegates responsibility > for managing projects to PMCs. To enable to board to provide oversight > across the foundation, the the PMCs aretasked with providing the board > with a quarterly report on the health of the project. The board has > noticed that the reports for XXX have been missed for a number > of months. > > The reports to the board are normally written by the PMC chair but all > PMC members have an individual responsibility to ensure that a report is > submitted. If the PMC chair is not available then any PMC member can > submit the report. If you need help with this process, please reach out > to bo...@apache.org > > Please ensure that a report for XXX is submitted to the board for the > next meeting. > > If the PMC chair is not going to be available for an extended period of > time it may make sense to rotate the PMC chair. Rotating the PMC chair > does not mean the current chair has failed. People's situations and > interests change, and rotation is good as it allows more people to > become familiar with that role. Again, if assistance is required with > this process, please feel free to reach out to bo...@apache.org > > As projects mature, they will naturally reach a point where activity > reduces to a level that the project is no longer sustainable. At Apache, > projects reach this stage when there are no longer 3 active PMC members > providing oversight. Projects that reach this stage are placed in the > attic [1]. If XXX has reached this point, please reach out to the Attic > project to arrange transfer. On the other hand, if your project is > mostly dormant but still has at least three active PMC members it can > stay in that state for as long as needed. If your project is in such a > state, please mention that in your report and verify the PMC's state at > regular intervals. > > Finally, if you have any questions please feel free to reach out to > bo...@apache.org > > ---- > > On 2017-09-20 10:31, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > (Note > mixed private/public lists) >> >> The ASF requires that any Apache project have at least three somewhat >> active PMC members - such that they can do things like review patches, >> and in particular vote to release a software update in case of security >> issues. To verify that Apache projects are still operating by ASF >> policies, the board requires that each PMC provides a report of activity >> and project health each quarter. >> >> It's clear there's still some contributors wanting to work on Axis, but >> lately, it's equally clear from watching the lack of acceptable reports >> to the board that the PMC as a whole is not working out. >> >> I strongly urge all PMC members still listening here to work out among >> yourselves a plan to 1) choose a new project chair and recommend them to >> the board ASAP and 2) engage with the contributors still here to review >> their work and keep the project moving forward. >> >> If the PMC (and/or committers on the project) can't show some obviously >> organized energy at project management, then perhaps it's time for the >> project as a whole to consider moving to the Attic soon. > > -- > > - Shane > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscr...@axis.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-h...@axis.apache.org