Is there good site beside J3D.org that list all java3d application developed
on the net?
I think there is not much application example that shows what java3d can do.
I tried to contact people from j3d to put my java3d pool game, but without
any success... nobody replied to me.
I think it would be good to have such site, to promote java3d.
Franck
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Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] how to help java3D rebirth ?
Doing things like wrapping Java 3D defeats the purpose of
both open software
and the open source process that asks us to improve the
original offering,
in this case Java3D. Those of us who are interested in doing
3D rendering
in Java need to devote our energies to improving Java 3D
itself.
Creating add-ons to a basically sound API only contributes
to the
possibility
that it will remain in its less functional state for a
longer period of time
as
people less devoted to keeping open source the best offering
for a
particular
task start to pick up on 3rd party extensions that are now
just another
proprietary variation on what Java 3D may very well do
better in the future.
It is through the unselfish dedication of open source
contributors that have
made the software world a much better place to work and
play.
There will always be others who will try to capitalize off
of the free
stuff.
As for myself, I'd much rather look at the original API and
make suggestions
or offerings that will make it better. That's why we all
come here in the
first place.
-RJ
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From: "Ben Logan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] how to help java3D rebirth ?
I have to agree with Frederic on this one! From the looks of
things you
really don't seem to be in a position to criticise Java 3D.
Don't get me wrong; I think everyone on this site is willing
to accept
constructive criticism, but yours seems unfounded and
basically opportunism.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Frederic Barachant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 22 January 2004 07:28
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] how to help java3D rebirth ?
>
>What a bad shameless commercial plug....
>looks like you were looking for a way to insert an advert
>about your thing..
>Whatever the reasons you did that API over J3D seems bad to
>me, and a big unnecessary burden.
>Scenegraph is perfectly suited for lots of people, maybe
not
>you, but that certainly is not a reason for 'the failure'.
>There are tons of successful scenegraph APIs around, you
know....
>I strongly disagree with point most of your points.
>
>He.. and what a bad bunch of HTML pages... The colors used
let
>me think you're a coder, and the image maps a newbie at
html..
>
>pffff..
>
>At 21/01/2004 21:30:00, you wrote:
>>Frankly, the scene graph model in Java 3D does not present
a
>robust and
>>flexible framework to describe the virtual world. Consider
the
>>following
>>points:
>>
>>1) This model does not present a natural way to describe
the world
>>around you;
>>2) This model does not have a robust way to handle user
interactions
>>with the virtual world;
>>3) You have no idea what time means in this model, so it's
>difficult to
>>simulate dynamic behaviors of world objects.
>>4) It's never a easy work for ordinary programmers to
develop 3D
>>applications (consider most developers can write a nice
html page).
>>
>>I believe these are the main reasons to the fact that the
Java 3D has
>>not gained the massive popularity in the past few years.
If
>the Java 3D
>>development is still on this track, I don't believe it
will have a
>>bright future in the near term.
>>
>>Our product, the WorldShow3D browser, uses Java 3D APIs in
the pure
>>immediate model (mainly in graphics rendering), but it is
completely
>>built on a new world model, i.e., the Show Stage model. We
have
>>incorporated the most fundamental elements of a world
(i.e., space,
>>time, and human
>>interactions) into the software design, and the Show Stage
model has
>>overcome many limitations of the Scene Graph model in
other
>3D virtual
>>world framework.
>>
>>So I really think the combination of Java 3D APIs and the
Show Stage
>>model can bring the virtual environment to every computer,
and then
>>this can help Java 3D rebirth. Hope you can join me.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Thomas Din
>>WorldShow3D Software Company
>>3717 Meadow View Dr.
>>Dexter, MI 48130
>>http://www.worldshow3d.com/
>>
>>You don't need to re-invent the world!
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Discussion list for Java 3D API
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Len
Yencharis
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:06 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] how to help java3D rebirth ?
>>
>>
>>More JAVA3D--This article will appear in Jan 2004 issue of
>Advanced Imaging.
>>Contact me if you want a copy of the issue--it's being
printed now
>>
>>--
>>3D Digital Image Processing
>>Marketing and Technical Consultant
>>> Not in the Reuters article, I guess they don't care
about 'nuts and
>>> bolts' of a "internet language in Mars", but in James
Grosling
>>> article I found it:
>>>
>>> "... All of this 3-D, walk-through visualization is
using standard
>>> Java APIs like Java 3-D API, Java Advanced Imaging API,
Java
>>> networking APIs and the user interface APIs. ..."
>>>
>>> So, we are there ;)
>>>
>>> Alessandro Borges
>>>
>>> --- Florin Herinean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On
>the original
>>> article, there was no mention of
>>> > Java 3D. Only java and 3-D
>>> > viewers, which may not necessarily be java. And if
it's
>java, there
>>> > are several 3d java implementations, java3d is only
one of them.
>>> >
>>> > Florin
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Discussion list for Java 3D API
>>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>Alessandro Borges
>>> > Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Januar 2004 12:56
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] how to help java3D rebirth ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On that Reuters article and in the links below all
>>
>>> > then talk about Java3D, and/or 3D features in Java,
i.e. Java3D
>>> > (dah!).
>>> > James Grosling itself put Java3D & Jai in the sky.
>>> > I guess now is the time to join JCP 189 (Java3D 1.4),
JCP 148 (3D
>>> > Media Utilities) & JCP 231 , and give a constructive
>participation
>>> > in the Java Media APIs.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/index.html
>>> > http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/features/mars.html
>>> >
>>> http://www.java.com/en/explore/everywhere/mars_rover.jsp
>>> > http://mars.telascience.org/
>>> > http://mars.telascience.org/softwaredownload
>>> >
>>> > Alessandro Borges
>>> >
>>> > --- Gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > do you think
it has to do
>>> > with java3d or just java ?
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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