Sorry, what you give aren't information but opinions. Or in other words:
you only tell us that "people say, J3D is dead". There is no information
about the source where you get this information from (beside the strange
"we know it because we heard it").

And I'm really amused when I hear from you that nobody at Sun is doing
anythin for J3D when I see that the buglist is managed well. The last bug
I entered month after you published your "information" was answered very
fast. So who is maintainig this list if all J3D developers are fired?

I think, the only _serious_ and appropriate information which is available
at the moment, are the statements from Sun - also if it aren't very much
(to avoid the word "poor").

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:47:55 -0800, Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Michael Pfeiffer wrote:


In July 2003, Sun sacked the two
remaining fulltime developers and have no plans to replace them.


Thats absolutely bullsh**! Its a shame that this page still spreads this
disinformation.

Please explain to the assembled crowd how this is wrong. Do you have information that sun has recently hired or placed new fulltime developers on Java3D? Considering that we are still talking on a weekly, if not more often, basis with various people inside Sun about 3D graphics projects, I would say that we're still well informed of the matter. You may also wish to note that there is nobody in Sun working fulltime on JOGL right now either. Everyone seems to have been diverted to getting Tiger out the door. However, there are at least intentions of continuing JOGL work once that is over because there are JSRs out there now that use it as the basis.

what the motivation of the maintainers is to damage the reputation of
J3D
but in my opinion there you can't find independent information about the
future.

Speculate for yourself. All we give is information. That is as accurate information as we know right now. Also, we never said we were independent either and I'm not sure what your definition of independent is. It is a site that I have personally maintained, with the occasional help from a few others, due to an interest in Java3D for 6 years now (probably more but my brain is fuzzy now on when I first started using it). During that time I have turned down multiple offers of help from Sun for the site, so that is about as independent as it gets in my book. Sadly I don't have as much time to devote to it now as I used to, but I still keep it as up to date on the relevant bits of information as possible.

What I can tell you for a fact is that in the commercial world of large
corporate companies they do see Java3D as being dead. May not be in the
academic world, but in terms of our clients that are mixed large US
companies and some government organisations (NIST, NASA, NSA) they are
moving their projects from Java3D to JOGL or elsewhere (some are looking
at using Xith3D too). To their eyes - not having any developers assigned
and working on the project to further enhance or bug fix is considered a
Very Bad Thing(TM). It doesn't matter whether it is Java3D, or any other
API that has nothing to do with Java.

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