I agree that MySQL's days may be numbers but I think there is something people are missing.
Just as Google has their appliance for search, I could see Oracle putting together a database appliance with the Sun hardware. Oracle would finally control everything below the database and that could result in a great deal of stability. In fact, with Weblogic, they have everything from the application server on down. You just design your application, buy one of their database appliances, install your code, and put it in your data center. Who knows, maybe Oracle will put together a cloud database to compete with Amazon and Google. They are getting a lot of toys from Sun and as someone mentioned, they are very good at making money. On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Peter Becker <[email protected]>wrote: > > [email protected] wrote: > > Not to be cynical but I believe Oracle wants to kill MySQL. They did > > in fact just do that if they wanted to. Now the other products. > > > I kind of like the idea of MySQL being killed :-) There is a place for > hacking things, but the database backend shouldn't be one. If you > compile MySQL you notice scary compiler warnings, if you compile > Postgres you notice that the compilation ends on a regression test > suite. I know which one makes me feel better. And yes: MySQL has failed > me in many ways, including data loss. > > But don't worry: MySQL is already forked and there is a lot of products > out there that rely on it. Some might move to Postgres, but > unfortunately I suspect that most will just pick a MySQL fork as their > next default database. > > Netbeans - Killed. Convert people to Jdeveloper but this will take > > some time. No more effort will be put in to Netbeans. Sucks for me > > but I believe this will happen. Jdeveloper will get better because of > > this. > > > I could see Oracle supporting both for a while, merging features of one > into the other. Similar to what they are doing with the application > servers. And I wouldn't be surprised if it goes the same way: the > inhouse product gets less attention and features are moved into the > acquisition. Although NetBeans doesn't necessarily have the mindshare > BEA's offerings have (at least in Oracle's market). > > Glassfish - Killed. They bought BEA for a reason. They don't want a > > low end application server around. They may not totally kill it but > > it will not get the development Sun put behind it. > > > Yeah, I have problems seeing Glassfish thrive, too. Marketing it as an > entry-level alternative to the BEA line just seems a bit too dangerous > unless there are good reasons for an upgrade. The better Glassfish gets, > the less reasons for an upgrade. Even consulting around Glassfish > doesn't seem a good market. My prediction: put somewhere for the > community to work on, no real effort beyond that. > > Solaris - Slow death or migration of all technology over to Linux > > (Oracles version of RedHat, and probably ONLY in their version of > > Linux. > > > I totally disagree. My prediction is that Oracle will abandon their > Linux efforts (did they ever get anywhere anyway?) and offer a Solaris > stack instead. That makes it much easier to distinguish themselves from > RedHat and the likes. I think Oracle is rather a big fish in a small > market than a small fish in a big market. And AFAIK there are still > plenty of sysadmins out there who think Linux is more of a toy, real men > use Unix. > > Sparc - Possibly killed, but I could also see Oracle somewhat pushing > > this with their own software much like IBM does. This is probably up > > in the air at the moment. Yes quite a few people spend a ton of money > > on Sun hardware and from what I hear it is good, but Linux on X86 has > > been and will continue to eat away at this market. > > > Oh -- I thought Sparc was already dead :-) > > Java - Supported and maintained about as well as it is now. I don't > > expect a lot to change here for the core language. > > > IMO they can't do much worse than Sun. The enterprise Java world doesn't > want change -- they want things better, but with no impact on anything, > which is just not feasible. It could go any way on this one. Wouldn't a > functional Java nicely fit into a stored procedure? Just dreaming... > > JavaFX - Killed. I expect their focus to be ADF or whatever JSF > > components Oracle likes. I hope I am wrong and Oracle comes out with > > a killer WYSIWYG GUI for JavaFX. > > > I can see the JavaFX frontends for Oracle databases. Not sure I believe > in that story, but it sounds feasible. > > Peter > > > MySQL - Mentioned above but killed as best they can. > > > > In my opinion it "only" cost Larry around 3 to 4 Billion to kill or > > nearly kill MySQL. By my simple math Sun has around 3 billion in the > > bank and they were bought for 7. So if you consider that they now > > control Java and have a bunch of "new" customers this was an easy > > buy. > > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 7:53 am, Mark Derricutt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> 7.4 billion.. > >> > >> http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp > >> > >> Whose ready for Java 1.6.0.0.0.0.0.14? > >> > >> ...and then Buffy staked Edward. The End. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- Robert Casto www.robertcasto.com [email protected] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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