On Sep 9, 11:59 pm, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, well you still fail to mention some of these - it's rather easy to > throw out a number like that. Cross platform UI can work yes, but what > I am saying is that they don't work well enough to be worth the > trouble. Which other programming language or platform mandates a UI? > Can you honestly claim Swing has not been an underachiever on the > desktop? Even newer JVM languages like Fantom have abandoned Swing.
Cross platform GUI is not worth the trouble? That's a pretty extreme blanket statement. Like most things, it's a perfect fit for some projects and not so for others. HTML/JS and Flash are all cross platform GUI, and I'd hope that I don't need to list applications to convince you that they are successful. Are you saying desktop/applet Java isn't technically competent or hasn't been popularly adopted? To me, it's definitely both widely adopted and technically excellent. It's not a technical fit for all projects: for many apps I would want a GUI in HTML, or for a console video game or a web browser I would believe that C/C++ and lower-level GUI SDKs are a better fit, but for other projects where you want Mac/ Windows/Linux compatability and want more GUI functionality than HTML/ JS provides, desktop/applet Java is a great toolset. I actually started typing up a list of technically amazing or popular Java dekstop/browser apps, but honestly, I would feel ridiculous posting it. The prevalence of this technology is just too obvious. And sure, newer projects like Fantom, are not using Swing... JavaFX didn't use Swing either. I don't think Swing is some eternal timeless perfect tool. Developers are always trying to make better tools. Lots of amazing apps use it, the Linux/Windows/Mac cross platform nature is huge for many projects, and when comparing Java to Mono, this is a major omission on Mono's part. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
