Sorry, I think I mis-stated my question. I know that Oracle has many, many people that are senior technically and very talented.
Sun, however, had a fairly unique concept that allowed technical folks to move to positions of greater and greater influence without moving into management. Sun, had the concept of fellows, distinguished engineers, etc. It is more of a research oriented model. With less and less research funding, many companies have abandoned this approach (IBM may be one of the few left). My impression, though it is only based on hearsay, is that Oracle's approach is one where career advancement requires a transition into management positions having increasingly more business decisions and fewer technical ones. I am not saying it was right or wrong, just asking if Sun is one of the last companies to embrace engineering as a peer to management. Make more sense? LES On Sep 27, 11:14 am, Fabrizio Giudici <fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it> wrote: > On 9/27/10 03:11 , Les Stroud wrote:> So, between this and Gosling's > interview, it seems that Oracle's lack > > of career path for senior technical people is causing senior technical > > folks to move on. In general, where is everyone going? Are there any > > companies left with career path's for senior technical resources? Is > > this kind of talent being absorbed into startups? > > With all the respect for the guys leaving (well, I'll miss Thor for his > NetBeans contributions), we should probably recall that seniors at > Snoracle are tons. "Perhaps" not all of them like blogging, so are not > put in evidence. I think it's a reality distortion field due to the > blogging culture. I'm sure that nobody does it on purpose, but from the > recurrent mourn about the n-th guy leaving it seems that only mediocre > guys stay in Oracle. We should realize that it's not that way. Also, I'm > quite surprised of this reasoning - I can't understand it when placed in > the US context, which is a very dynamic one. I mean, I'd be rather > surprised, instead, to learn that people spend the whole life in the > same corporate. I expect that people like those we're often commenting > on get the best for themselves, and give the best for the community, by > changing corporate something in a while. > > -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people > fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
