Is there a legitimate complaint about the Java 8 virtual defender methods? 
That seems like a great enhancement. I haven't heard any objections.

I understand that people will complain about everything. But with the 
Option/flatMap/iteration issue, there is a very specific, technical, 
articulate, well reasoned and widespread objection. That makes it quite 
different.

Sure, there is choice in languages, but that is a lame response. If there 
is still a community that cares, they should speak up. I will probably 
migrate from Java towards Scala whether they fix small ticket items like 
this or not. I would still like to see the flagship JVM language move in 
the right direction.

On Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:39:21 AM UTC-5, Simon Ochsenreither wrote:
>
> We can only assume that they already considered it, looked at 
> code-examples and maybe decided that this is not the way they want people 
> to write code (similar to Guava).
>
> This wouldn't be too bad in many languages, but even Java's planned 
> extension methods are designed in a way which prevents people who disagree 
> from fixing it.
>
> In the end, different languages have different attitudes towards their 
> users, which can range from “They are stupid and need constant shepherding” 
> to “They know what they are doing, get out of their way”.
> Thankfully, there are plenty of languages to choose from.
>

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