Sure, they don't let me add methods to types I don't control, i.e.,
they're not extension methods a la C#.  I think they solve what
they're intended to solve reasonably well though.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:47 PM, clay <claytonw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a legitimate complaint about the Java 8 virtual defender methods?
> That seems like a great enhancement. I haven't heard any objections.
>
> I understand that people will complain about everything. But with the
> Option/flatMap/iteration issue, there is a very specific, technical,
> articulate, well reasoned and widespread objection. That makes it quite
> different.
>
> Sure, there is choice in languages, but that is a lame response. If there is
> still a community that cares, they should speak up. I will probably migrate
> from Java towards Scala whether they fix small ticket items like this or
> not. I would still like to see the flagship JVM language move in the right
> direction.
>
> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:39:21 AM UTC-5, Simon Ochsenreither wrote:
>>
>> We can only assume that they already considered it, looked at
>> code-examples and maybe decided that this is not the way they want people to
>> write code (similar to Guava).
>>
>> This wouldn't be too bad in many languages, but even Java's planned
>> extension methods are designed in a way which prevents people who disagree
>> from fixing it.
>>
>> In the end, different languages have different attitudes towards their
>> users, which can range from “They are stupid and need constant shepherding”
>> to “They know what they are doing, get out of their way”.
>> Thankfully, there are plenty of languages to choose from.
>
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