Discussions of age won't help much here...

Just consider that Java is still trying to catch up to Smalltalk in
oh-so-many ways, and that Clojure is a LISP - making it older than I am.

The critical factor here isn't age, so much as strength of ecosystem; the
two things don't necessarily correlate.



On 25 Feb 2014 19:22, "Russel Winder" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 10:39 -0700, phil swenson wrote:
> > cayla has no checkins for  month, not exactly promising for new web
> > framework
>
> On the other hand it hasn't had checkins for a month which might mean
> there is no churn.
>
> > i looked at kara a month ago or so, looks super early.
>
> Indeed. As does Cayla :-)
>
> > my point was really about having a reasonable mature web framework to
work
> > with.... plugin architecture ecosystem, testing, build, deployment, etc.
>
> JSF is mature, plugin architecture ecosystem, testing, build,
> deployment, etc. but would you use it?
>
> >  Play seems way beyond these particular frameworks.   I can deploy play
to
> > heroku, load of plugins for Play for auth/SaSS/etc.
>
> But it is based on a language that is over 10 years old ;-)
>
> I can deploy Django, Tornado, Flask, Vert.x, Grails, Ratpack, etc. to
> Heroku: Heroku is fairly platform agnostic and is therefore not a factor
> of choice.
>
> > I should clarify, this is just my impression - I haven't done anything
> > serious with Play.
>
> Decision making requires comparative work. Without projects implemented
> in all the frameworks, choice is based on what can only be called
> prejudice. At times this can be fine: if a team knows JSF, Play, Grails,
> and choose to just use it, fine. But if the question is "which is best",
> or "what the comparison between" then data is required, prejudice is no
> longer a valid tool.
>
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