Thank you Eric, perhaps this one can be put to bed now. HTH, Rick Justice
"Tomorrow's another day, another way!" "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Damery" <edam...@vfogroup.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields While it may well be possible that we could add such an option that would allow the true password being typed, it is also very likely that just adding this option into our software, would cause security minded organizations such as IRS, SSA, and many other 3 letter organizations, to block those versions from being deployed. It is part of the reason we have a Non-Tandem build of our software posted also on the web. Sorry, but this ability to echo Passwords is risky from security standpoint and we will not be adding that one. Regards, Eric Eric Damery VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 4:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields FYI, The screen-reader does not control the ***, it is the operating system, website, and applications. Sighted users also see these, because it is a security measure. The difference between Jaws and Windows Eyes in these situations may simply be the way the screen reader obtains the information from the computer. In my line of thinking, the key echo setting in Jaws is mis-named since it's clear in the password fields that Jaws is actually echoing what is printed on the screen, and not the actual key that is being pressed. HTH, Rick Justice "Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields thank you! i requested this to vfo and got no response the main jaws user group just blew me off. window eyes has this option. why not jaws? i don't work for anyone. so i don't need to hide passwords with stars. besides even with window eyes when it is speaking the keys i press the letters are not showing on the screen. so if i were useing headphones watchers still wouldn't know the password i typed in. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 9:33 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields I see no reason a speak password option couldn't be added in Jaws for those that need it. Have it off by default but it is there for those that need it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Newell > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 11:35 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields > > Why is typing the password so difficult? If you are finding that you > need JAWS to speak back each character you are typing because you make > mistakes, I suggest (and please don't interpret this as condescension > or rudeness, because that is not my objective at all) that you buy a > typing program such as Typability or Talking Typer to improve your > typing. > > On 3/4/18, net bat66 <netba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> what i would like to see is a way to turn off the stars all together for >> passwords and speak the keys i press. >> the sites below do not have the option to show the passwords i have typed >> in. >> i am getting sick and tired of haveing to type my passwords in note pad >> and >> >> copy and pasteing them into the password fields because it won't speak >> the >> keys >> i press. at least window eyes has the option to speak the keys i press. >> and don't tell me i need to learn how to type without speech. many web >> sites >> >> only give you 3 chances to get the password before you are locked out of >> the >> >> accounts. >> my bank ,c v s pharmicy,office of personnel management ,kiser etc. >> all require me to call them to prove who i am.. then wait up to 10 days >> for >> >> them to snail mail me a tempory password before i can access these >> accounts. >> where is the security in this when i have to have someone else read back >> the >> >> pin number that was mailed to me so i can record them to a voice >> recorder >> and >> type them in when i get home? >> >> Hi Robin, >> >> I have been experimenting with the, *, dictionary tweak, & Jaws only >> reported UnReconciled when typing a password if I tweaked the Default JDF >> dictionary manager, but not when I tweaked the Word JDF dictionary >> manager. >> The Word JDF dictionary manager was my experimental application. >> >> But, if I changed the tweak to,* , a star then a space, in the default >> JDF >> dictionary manager, then used a space after the star in the Word >> application >> JDF dictionary then everything worked as it should all the way around. >> >> What I'm trying to say is if you want the,*, to say, UnReconciled in a >> home >> budgit, then add a space after the star in the application dictionary, >> but >> then you'll also have to put a star then a space in front of any entry in >> the application as well. >> >> If I've totally confused you by now, just let the list know what >> application >> you want to use, & I'll type up a set of steps that'll get it done for >> you. >> >> Take care. 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