Hi, thanks for the correct URL. As they're based in the UK, you'd think they have a .co.uk address, but not so with T&T Consultancy, so thanks for that, greatly appreciated. Why not join my Blind Hobbyist group? To subscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flor Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Itune
> So far as ITunes and JAWS are concerned, visit www.tandt-consultancy.com/ > and check out what they have to say about their latest ITunes JAWS > scripts, > which > make ITunes *accessible* with JAWS. Then ITunes users may want to buy the > scripts, perhaps. > > So far as Apple is concerned, Leopard is their effort in accessibility - a > different operating system than windows (which JAWS doesn't work with). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:20 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Itune > > > Software is a product. > > -----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tim > Sent: Saturday, 03 May 2008 15:48 > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Itune > > Software and products are two different things. > As far as software goes. it only has to be accessible if it has any > dealings > with the government. As in all software used or given out by the > government > has to be accessible. > if they have no dealings with the government as in most. only the programs > aware of accessibility will you find them accessible. it don't take much > to > make them accessible, but its not a standard practise for programmers to > use > assessable tools. > if you want a good description of this accessibility just look at our > screen > readers. if the software was all accessible. there wouldn't be a need for > scripts. And you can't say your country does it any better, because most > of > the software is from the USA, and you say below that companies there > don't. > so it looks like your laws don't do any more then ours do for > accessibility > expect pass the buck. They say the software has to be accessible and when > its not they leave the fight up to the user? > At 07:51 PM 5/2/2008, you wrote: >>I am surprised you believe that there are no laws regarding software >>accessibility. I am not sure what jurisdiction you are living in but >>this is definitely not true for the UK and I was given to understand >>when I attended a legal conference a few months back that there were >>even stricter law in the USA. >> >>Just for info I refer you to the UK Disability Discrimination Act 1995 >>Part >>3 Goods and Services. In this section providers are expected to make >>"reasonable adjustment" to ensure access. This includes software. Under >>2006 Disability Discrimination Act public authorities are under a >>positive duty to ensure accessible goods and services even where this >>means a disabled person ends up being treated more favourably. Again >>software comes within this remit. >> >> >>The reality unfortunately is that the application of this law can only >>be enforced by an application to a County Court and most of us do not >>have the time and energy to do this. Many companies including software >>providers manage to flout their legal responsibilities by banking on a >>lack of willingness to summon them to Court. I personally believe that >>the blind organisations in the UK should do much more to make companies >>comply with the law. if tough for most people to embark on a court > summons. >> >>The legal conference in London I attended in December 2007 had several >>blind jurists talking about the "scandal" of software providers >>flouting the law in the provision of their products. . There was much talk > of starting >>litigation against companies like Apple but I have not heard of anything >>yet. Still it might be in the pipeline. >> >>David Griffith >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tim >>Sent: Friday, 02 May 2008 14:56 >>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Itune >> >>Well there are no laws saying companies have to make there products >>accessible. The orgs we have such as NFB and ACB haven't even tried to >>do anything about this sense there start. So what are they for besides > nothing. >>The chip to make things talk costs around $.50 or less by now, and to >>put it into a product isn't hard.. >> >>At 04:25 AM 5/2/2008, you wrote: >> >I don't know if Apple have improved, don't think so. I have just >> >thrown out my Ipod, Itunes and anything to do with Apple. I nominate >> >that company as the worse in the world. >> > >> >What's happened to all this discrimination law that is supposed to be >> >in existence. It seems to me that more and more electronic devices >> >and software is becoming less and less accessible. I'm thinking of >> >upgrading my sound system through which I play my TV service but it >> >is difficult to find anything today that isn't screen driven. >> > >> >Sorry to rant on. I recommend you flog your Ipod and keep well away >> >from Apple. >> > >> >David >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Holger Fiallo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:53 PM >> >Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Itune >> > >> > >> > > Hi, all >> > > I have an Ipod and I installed Itune. Are there any free script >> > > for jaws 9 and Itune? I know there are scripts that I could >> > > purchased but I was wondering if anyone has created scripts for >> > > Itune that are >>free. >> > > >> > > >> > > Kind Regard >> > > Holger Fiallo >> > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> > > http://www.jaws-users.com >> > > Address for the list archives: >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> > > To post to this group, send email to >> > > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, >> > > send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >> > > subject or body of a blank message to: >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Use the following form in order to contact the management team >> > > http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php >> > > If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to >> > > the following address: >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > >> > >> >Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: >> 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