The basic operating systems are very different.  To program for accessibility 
in one environment does not mean that it will be programmed correctly for 
another.

Apple, it seems to me, has a history of pushing development of solutions to 
third parties.  VoiceOver is a departure from this approach, but it feels as if 
their approach to the changes in Itunes 9 is a reversion to form for Windows 
based programs.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS

Well, then how come it works on the mac. Don't you I mean they have to 
program voiceover. How can something work with one screen reader and not 
another?
Sarah A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <cblackw...@cityofmadison.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS


> It is also the fault of the programmers who do not write cstandard code 
> that can be accessed by screen readers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com 
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:18 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>
> It is accessible using a mac with voice over, but on windows with
> wineyes or jaws expect some parts not to be accessible. That is the
> fault of the screen readers and what they support.
>
> At 06:17 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>I have another question about itunes.
>>If I uninstall it to go back to itunes 8, won't it remove my itunes
>>folder where all my music is at?
>>Also, all over the apple website, it is claiming that itunes 9.0 is
>>fully accessibale. They say to use window eyes that is not much
>>different from Jaws.
>>So, if apple is claiming it's accessible then how come the itunes
>>store isn't accessible. I mean they are saying on there website that
>>the store is easier designed for the visually impaired. Is it just
>>that we don't know how to use the store?
>>I mean if they are claiming itunes 9 is accessible then it should
>>be. I really don't wanna switch back unless I have to.
>>Sarah A.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" <amt...@gmail.com>
>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>
>>
>>>Go into your iTunes folder and copy the "iTunes Library.itl" file to your
>>>clipboard and put it somewhere.  Then when you do manage to get the older
>>>iTunes installed, paste it over the existing iTunesLibrary.itl file it 
>>>will
>>>create...unless your library is already there in iTunes first.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
>>>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sarah anson
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:45 PM
>>>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>>
>>>I am not sure if you can copy and paste. If you were using the version 
>>>that
>>>was released before 9.0 then it would take you like maybe five mins to 
>>>sign
>>>up.
>>>How do I go back to the previous version of itunes. If I uninstall itunes
>>>and reinstall old version, won't that delete my library?
>>>Sarah A.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Marang" 
>>><donald.mar...@gmail.com>
>>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:44 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>>I installed iTunes 9 yesterday.  I am not familiar with the iTunes 
>>>>layout
>>>>and operation yet.  It seems fairly complicated.  I was having trouble
>>>>using iTunes 9 and saw others were having difficulty too.  So I decided 
>>>>to
>>>>revert to a version known to work.  At least until I learned how to get
>>>>around in iTunes.  With a little searching, I found the following 
>>>>official
>>>>Apple download link for iTunes 8.2.1:
>>>>http://support.apple.com/kb/DL928
>>>>
>>>>It took me 3 hours to sign up for an iTunes account, even with version 
>>>>9!
>>>>What is the deal with edit boxes and combo boxes in iTunes?  Is copy and
>>>>paste illegal?
>>>>
>>>>Don Marang
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" <amt...@gmail.com>
>>>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:20 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a friend who was able to make her way around iTunes pretty well
>>>>>with
>>>>>JAWS 8.  But Kim, do not download the latest version of iTunes,
>>>>>especially
>>>>>if you have an older JAWS.  I would try looking for an iTunes version 8
>>>>>from
>>>>>a website like www.oldversion.com
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
>>>>>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger
>>>>>Fiallo
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:57 AM
>>>>>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>go to apple.com and go to iTune and download. Regarding jaws do not 
>>>>>know.
>>>>>probably.
>>>>>
>>>>>Kind Regard
>>>>>
>>>>>Holger Fiallo
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "kim kelly" <kim...@clearwire.net>
>>>>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:29 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can I. tunes be used with older versions of Jaws?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And how is it used and also downloaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If some one can let me know i would appreciate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim Kelly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah anson" <beccaj...@tconl.com>
>>>>>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:42 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>I installed the update! I do not like it. You can buy stuff from the
>>>>>>>store, but it is kinda complicated, and I can't figure out how to
>>>>>>>listen
>>>>>>>to the songs. Like, to preview them.
>>>>>>>You go to the itunes store and then in the search box, type something
>>>>>>>like "Boys like girls." If you know the name of the song like "She's
>>>>>>>got
>>>>>>>a boyfriend now." Type in "boys like girls she's got a boyfriend 
>>>>>>>now."
>>>>>>>If
>>>>>
>>>>>>>you know the name of the album type the album name "Love Drunk" for
>>>>>>>example or the artist and album "Boys like girls love drunk."
>>>>>>>Then press enter. Next tab till you hear the album you want. Press
>>>>>>>enter.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>hen it will say something like View full album. Press enter then
>>>>>>>ctrl+end
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to go to the end of the screen. Press tab and you should hear it say
>>>>>>>"buy
>>>>>
>>>>>>>love drunk." For example and then tab again it it will say "Buy Two 
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>better than one featuring Taylor Swift." and I am assuming then you
>>>>>>>press
>>>>>
>>>>>>>enter on the song you wanna buy. It sould take you through the whole
>>>>>>>album.
>>>>>>>If I can figure out more, I will let you know. And, I was just using
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>>>artist/album as an example on how to use the itunes store.
>>>>>>>Sarah A.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hansen" 
>>>>>>><amt...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:52 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 9.0 and JAWS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I believe on Tuesday or sometime this week Apple released a new
>>>>>>>>version
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>iTunes, iTunes 9.  Has anyone downloaded this and had any success,
>>>>>>>>particularly in the iTunes Store?  I did update and now I'm trying 
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>figure
>>>>>>>>out how to use the thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>>>>
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