Narrator works and I don't feel like taking my chance of not having any sound at all by uninstalling the built-in sound card which is Realtech

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And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s 
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On 10/13/2013 1:01 AM, Bob wrote:
If the talking installer isn’t talking then this points to some more 
fundamental issue with the laptop.
Have you checked to see if Narrator talks?
I have seen issues before where certain sound drivers disturb the speech in 
both narrator and eloquence.
Go to device manager and uninstall your sound card, reboot your machine and 
then try uninstalling and installing jaws again.

Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Chela Robles
Sent: 13 October 2013 05:40
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP installed 
Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not even the all 
users documents and settings and I now see why several don't choose HP but go 
with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP doesn't come to you to 
service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP partitioned Windows 7 at 
all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me a Dell laptop so I can put 
JAWS on there and not have this problem because it will be a fresh install of 
Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows 7 disk to do the fresh 
install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, unless this new talking 
installation of Windows installation I just heard about from Top Tech Tidbits 
would help, but in that case I'd still have to have the Windows 7 Home Premium 
64-bit installer disks and that might as well be expensive...so, JAWS has come 
to a stalemate with me, and I don't think the FS team will be able to help me, 
but I guess it will be worth the call on Monday...and if nothing changes then, 
I'm just going to have to use NVDA until I get my computer Rehab will purchase 
for me.
Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin'
right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be.

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It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation 
that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and 
music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and 
the chance to play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s 
case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on 
what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second 
place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins
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On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote:
The problem is that I'm not seeing rC:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific after, one, uninstalling it,
two, removing both Freedom Scientific folders in Program Files and
Program files (x86) locations, then I try to put in that above path
which windows doesn't find so I can't delete the JAWS folder under it
for JAWS 14. Wow this must be a world record of my having the longest
JAWS issue ever LOL, but seriously, can't wait for 15 to come out,
would be cool if when one does a repair switch from the directions
from the FS team, that it would autodetect the files missing and just
add automatically so this issue won't ever happen again, but I'm only
dreaming big I guess...sigh, this is wearing me out.

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It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of
light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will
have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in
Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that
sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant
second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins
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On 10/12/2013 7:42 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
ok, you delete every thing related with jaws?
now, instal jaws again, downloaded from the hj.com web site. it
should work.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Chela Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Ok I uninstalled JAWS again and after removing the folders that are
labeled Freedom Scientific in both Program Folders and Program Files
(x86) and then I inputted the path C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific in the run dialog box
using windows r and got the folowing error saying it couldn't find
C:\documents and that I should make sure I typed it correctly which
I did and try again with an OK button. There aren't any settings for
Freedom Scientific JAWS and anything related to Freedom Scientific
products for Linda the main user and not even for me, Chela.
Weird just keeps getting more strange and I feel like I'm dumb
stumped. Never have I had this problem before when I had version 10
on my xp machine that died and lived its life to its potential and
it was a 32-bit system.
Hmmm!

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Teachers have a sacred task:
It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full
of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and
will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and
in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher
that sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant
second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins
--
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certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
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On 10/12/2013 6:35 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
No, the registry, doesn't store files. Registry just indicate keys
for windows. For example, if we have installed jaws in C:\All
Programs\Freedom\Jaws, then the registry just indicate the path for
that program. Of course, registry indicate a lot of things, keys,
paths, and sub keys for dll that are needed for windows.
You can clean your registry of keys that are not linked to
anything, or information that is making process not eficient. I use
cCleaner for this kind of problems. Really the registry is more
that I am telling you, but in a few words. The registry is a kind
of guides, and indications for run the operated system, and all
programs installed in your computer.
P

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chela Robles"
<cdrobles...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS
Error


Perhaps there are files left over in the registry? How would I be
able to check it if it has jaws stuff in the registry?

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Teachers have a sacred task:
It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full
of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and
will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own
song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and
in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a
Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a
distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins
--
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certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
http://www.nrffoundation.com/
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On 10/12/2013 3:50 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
My suggestion is this;
1. uninstall jaws 14.
2. delete the freedom scientific folder that is in all programs.
3. If in windows 7  do you have more than one user, you should
delete the setting configuration stored in
c:\users\YourUser\app\freedom....
4. Reinstall jaws 14 of 64 bits.
Just one thing. Try to place the UAC level in 50%, no more than this.
Reinstall jaws, and let us know how it goes.
P
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chela Robles"
<cdrobles...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS
Error


I did that but still no go.

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It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full
of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and
will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own
song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted
non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and
touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a
distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins
--
Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service,
certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
http://www.nrffoundation.com/
E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com
Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com
Skype: jazzytrumpet
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On 10/12/2013 2:36 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
Your best bet, I think, is to totally remove JAWS14, before
reinstalling it. (Download first; reinstall after.) Remember that
JAWS takes quite a while to load, so don't use NVDA for the JAWS
reinstall.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chela Robles"
<cdrobles...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS
Error


How do I get the current display driver?

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Teachers have a sacred task:
It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an
expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is
full of light, and love, and music and that each student
deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to
play their own song.
And, as much of these expectations are transmitted
non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice
and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be.
Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a
distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins
--
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certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF):
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On 10/12/2013 1:13 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein wrote:
Hi.

Are you sure, that the current display driver is installed, so
you're running more than 16 color's?

Hans Pauli.


-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Chela Robles
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS
Error

Hello my name is chela Robles from concord California.
I've been a JAWS user since version 5.0 came out, and have
license for version 10 which doesn't run under windows 7, so
I've heard, and so I downloaded version 14.0.6005 build for
64-bit systems as a 40 minute demo since I'm not authorized to
use this version fully on an HP
G72
Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium laptop and I've discovered a very
annoying issue which I've tried to solve using the below method
from Freedom Scientific about 6 times now and I'd like to know
what your thoughts are regarding this issue and I'm so sorry if
this topic comes up often, but since I'm new to this list, I'd
like your opinions regarding trouble-shooting this issue,
please? Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
So I downloaded the latest demo version of the 64-bit version of
JAWS version 14, that being build 6005 in English, saved it to
my C drive so I skipped that step outlined in the directions
from Freedom Scientific, then I ran the executable and followed
the prompts using the NVDA screen reader since the talking
installer didn't work, then I rebooted the pc like one always
has to when installing JAWS and I loaded JAWS and got this
error:
JAWS
A file required by the driver ELOQ.JLS for Eloquence Software
could not be loaded. One or more shared components are missing.
Please reinstall this product in an effort to resolve the
problem.
OK
so I pressed ok and followed the repair switch from the run
dialog box:
pressed windows r then typed in C:\J14.0.6005ENU-64bit.exe
/typerepair and pressed enter and followed the prompts spoken by
NVDA since the talking installer requires Eloquence to speak
since it wouldn't speak, and still no go, I still get the same
error and I've done the whole process 6 times now. I'm
officially stumped!
Can anyone help me please with this issue?
You can write me offlist at cdrobles...@gmail.com as to not
clutter up this list thank you again for your service. I greatly
appreciate it.
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