Like my partner said earlier please prune the subject line, it's longer than most messages please.
David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Narrator works and I don't feel like taking my chance of not having any sound at all by uninstalling the built-in sound card which is Realtech -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins -- Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): http://www.nrffoundation.com/ E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com Skype: jazzytrumpet I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E -- On 10/13/2013 1:01 AM, Bob wrote: > If the talking installer isn’t talking then this points to some more > fundamental issue with the laptop. > Have you checked to see if Narrator talks? > I have seen issues before where certain sound drivers disturb the speech in > both narrator and eloquence. > Go to device manager and uninstall your sound card, reboot your machine and > then try uninstalling and installing jaws again. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Chela Robles > Sent: 13 October 2013 05:40 > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error > > My friend had given me this HP G-72 laptop and it must be the way HP > installed Windows 7 because I can't even find C:\documents and settings not > even the all users documents and settings and I now see why several don't > choose HP but go with either Dell or something else, I also heard that HP > doesn't come to you to service where Dell does, and I don't like how HP > partitioned Windows 7 at all...which is why I can't wait until rehab buys me > a Dell laptop so I can put JAWS on there and not have this problem because it > will be a fresh install of Windows 7 on a 64-bit machine. If I had a Windows > 7 disk to do the fresh install, I'd do it myself with sighted assistance, > unless this new talking installation of Windows installation I just heard > about from Top Tech Tidbits would help, but in that case I'd still have to > have the Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installer disks and that might as well > be expensive...so, JAWS has come to a stalemate with me, and I don't think > the FS team will be able to help me, but I guess it will be worth the call on > Monday...and if nothing changes then, I'm just going to have to use NVDA > until I get my computer Rehab will purchase for me. > Well, I'm going to try to get some sleep. Seems like I keep spinnin' > right round with this issue, the circle of life as it may be. > > -- > Teachers have a sacred task: > It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation > that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, > and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in > it and the chance to play their own song. > And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and in > Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher that sheds > light on what the world can be. > Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant > second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins > -- > Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, > certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): > http://www.nrffoundation.com/ > E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com > Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com > Skype: jazzytrumpet > I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with > us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join dropbox > and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as is this is > my referral link to you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E > -- > > On 10/12/2013 9:05 PM, Chela Robles wrote: >> The problem is that I'm not seeing rC:\Documents and Settings\All >> Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific after, one, uninstalling >> it, two, removing both Freedom Scientific folders in Program Files >> and Program files (x86) locations, then I try to put in that above >> path which windows doesn't find so I can't delete the JAWS folder >> under it for JAWS 14. Wow this must be a world record of my having >> the longest JAWS issue ever LOL, but seriously, can't wait for 15 to >> come out, would be cool if when one does a repair switch from the >> directions from the FS team, that it would autodetect the files >> missing and just add automatically so this issue won't ever happen >> again, but I'm only dreaming big I guess...sigh, this is wearing me out. >> >> -- >> Teachers have a sacred task: >> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an >> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of >> light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will >> have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. >> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and >> in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a Teacher >> that sheds light on what the world can be. >> Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a distant >> second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins >> -- >> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, >> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): >> http://www.nrffoundation.com/ >> E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com >> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com >> Skype: jazzytrumpet >> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with >> us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ >> Need more space, come join dropbox and start with two gigs of free >> space and 500 Megabytes as is this is my referral link to you: >> http://db.tt/XpUTe0E >> -- >> >> On 10/12/2013 7:42 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: >>> ok, you delete every thing related with jaws? >>> now, instal jaws again, downloaded from the hj.com web site. it >>> should work. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Chela Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok I uninstalled JAWS again and after removing the folders that are >>>> labeled Freedom Scientific in both Program Folders and Program >>>> Files >>>> (x86) and then I inputted the path C:\Documents and Settings\All >>>> Users\Application Data\Freedom Scientific in the run dialog box >>>> using windows r and got the folowing error saying it couldn't find >>>> C:\documents and that I should make sure I typed it correctly which >>>> I did and try again with an OK button. There aren't any settings >>>> for Freedom Scientific JAWS and anything related to Freedom >>>> Scientific products for Linda the main user and not even for me, Chela. >>>> Weird just keeps getting more strange and I feel like I'm dumb >>>> stumped. Never have I had this problem before when I had version 10 >>>> on my xp machine that died and lived its life to its potential and >>>> it was a 32-bit system. >>>> Hmmm! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Teachers have a sacred task: >>>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an >>>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full >>>> of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and >>>> will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own song. >>>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted non-verbally—and >>>> in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and touch of a >>>> Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. >>>> Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a >>>> distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins >>>> -- >>>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, >>>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): >>>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/ >>>> E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com >>>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com >>>> Skype: jazzytrumpet >>>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with >>>> us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join >>>> dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as >>>> is this is my referral link to you: >>>> http://db.tt/XpUTe0E >>>> -- >>>> >>>>> On 10/12/2013 6:35 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: >>>>> No, the registry, doesn't store files. Registry just indicate keys >>>>> for windows. For example, if we have installed jaws in C:\All >>>>> Programs\Freedom\Jaws, then the registry just indicate the path >>>>> for that program. Of course, registry indicate a lot of things, >>>>> keys, paths, and sub keys for dll that are needed for windows. >>>>> You can clean your registry of keys that are not linked to >>>>> anything, or information that is making process not eficient. I >>>>> use cCleaner for this kind of problems. Really the registry is >>>>> more that I am telling you, but in a few words. The registry is a >>>>> kind of guides, and indications for run the operated system, and >>>>> all programs installed in your computer. >>>>> P >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chela Robles" >>>>> <cdrobles...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:58 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS >>>>> Error >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps there are files left over in the registry? How would I be >>>>> able to check it if it has jaws stuff in the registry? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Teachers have a sacred task: >>>>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an >>>>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full >>>>> of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and >>>>> will have--their own place in it and the chance to play their own >>>>> song. >>>>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted >>>>> non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice and >>>>> touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. >>>>> Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a >>>>> distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins >>>>> -- >>>>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, >>>>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): >>>>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/ >>>>> E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com >>>>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com >>>>> Skype: jazzytrumpet >>>>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with >>>>> us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join >>>>> dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes as >>>>> is this is my referral link to you: >>>>> http://db.tt/XpUTe0E >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/12/2013 3:50 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: >>>>>> My suggestion is this; >>>>>> 1. uninstall jaws 14. >>>>>> 2. delete the freedom scientific folder that is in all programs. >>>>>> 3. If in windows 7 do you have more than one user, you should >>>>>> delete the setting configuration stored in >>>>>> c:\users\YourUser\app\freedom.... >>>>>> 4. Reinstall jaws 14 of 64 bits. >>>>>> Just one thing. Try to place the UAC level in 50%, no more than this. >>>>>> Reinstall jaws, and let us know how it goes. >>>>>> P >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chela Robles" >>>>>> <cdrobles...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:03 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS >>>>>> Error >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I did that but still no go. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Teachers have a sacred task: >>>>>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an >>>>>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is >>>>>> full of light, and love, and music and that each student >>>>>> deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to >>>>>> play their own song. >>>>>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted >>>>>> non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice >>>>>> and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. >>>>>> Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a >>>>>> distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, >>>>>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): >>>>>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/ >>>>>> E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com >>>>>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com >>>>>> Skype: jazzytrumpet >>>>>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer with >>>>>> us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join >>>>>> dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes >>>>>> as is this is my referral link to you: >>>>>> http://db.tt/XpUTe0E >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/12/2013 2:36 PM, Flor Lynch wrote: >>>>>>> Your best bet, I think, is to totally remove JAWS14, before >>>>>>> reinstalling it. (Download first; reinstall after.) Remember >>>>>>> that JAWS takes quite a while to load, so don't use NVDA for the >>>>>>> JAWS reinstall. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chela Robles" >>>>>>> <cdrobles...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:50 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS >>>>>>> Error >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do I get the current display driver? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Teachers have a sacred task: >>>>>>> It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an >>>>>>> expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is >>>>>>> full of light, and love, and music and that each student >>>>>>> deserves--and will have--their own place in it and the chance to >>>>>>> play their own song. >>>>>>> And, as much of these expectations are transmitted >>>>>>> non-verbally—and in Chela’s case--out of sight…it is the voice >>>>>>> and touch of a Teacher that sheds light on what the world can be. >>>>>>> Academics—and no one will ever change my mind on this—take a >>>>>>> distant second place. —Dr. Bil Hawkins >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Chela Robles a Nationally Certified person in Customer Service, >>>>>>> certified by the National Retail Federation Foundation (NRF): >>>>>>> http://www.nrffoundation.com/ >>>>>>> E-mail: cdrobles...@gmail.com >>>>>>> Windows Live Messenger: cdrobles...@hotmail.com >>>>>>> Skype: jazzytrumpet >>>>>>> I volunteer for Bookshare, to find out more and to volunteer >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> us,visit: http://www.bookshare.org/ Need more space, come join >>>>>>> dropbox and start with two gigs of free space and 500 Megabytes >>>>>>> as is this is my referral link to >>>>>>> you: http://db.tt/XpUTe0E >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/12/2013 1:13 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you sure, that the current display driver is installed, so >>>>>>>> you're running more than 16 color's? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hans Pauli. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Chela Robles >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:53 PM >>>>>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS >>>>>>>> Error >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello my name is chela Robles from concord California. >>>>>>>> I've been a JAWS user since version 5.0 came out, and have >>>>>>>> license for version 10 which doesn't run under windows 7, so >>>>>>>> I've heard, and so I downloaded version 14.0.6005 build for >>>>>>>> 64-bit systems as a 40 minute demo since I'm not authorized to >>>>>>>> use this version fully on an HP >>>>>>>> G72 >>>>>>>> Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium laptop and I've discovered a very >>>>>>>> annoying issue which I've tried to solve using the below method >>>>>>>> from Freedom Scientific about 6 times now and I'd like to know >>>>>>>> what your thoughts are regarding this issue and I'm so sorry if >>>>>>>> this topic comes up often, but since I'm new to this list, I'd >>>>>>>> like your opinions regarding trouble-shooting this issue, >>>>>>>> please? Thanks in advance for your suggestions. >>>>>>>> So I downloaded the latest demo version of the 64-bit version >>>>>>>> of JAWS version 14, that being build 6005 in English, saved it >>>>>>>> to my C drive so I skipped that step outlined in the directions >>>>>>>> from Freedom Scientific, then I ran the executable and followed >>>>>>>> the prompts using the NVDA screen reader since the talking >>>>>>>> installer didn't work, then I rebooted the pc like one always >>>>>>>> has to when installing JAWS and I loaded JAWS and got this >>>>>>>> error: >>>>>>>> JAWS >>>>>>>> A file required by the driver ELOQ.JLS for Eloquence Software >>>>>>>> could not be loaded. One or more shared components are missing. >>>>>>>> Please reinstall this product in an effort to resolve the >>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>> OK >>>>>>>> so I pressed ok and followed the repair switch from the run >>>>>>>> dialog box: >>>>>>>> pressed windows r then typed in C:\J14.0.6005ENU-64bit.exe >>>>>>>> /typerepair and pressed enter and followed the prompts spoken >>>>>>>> by NVDA since the talking installer requires Eloquence to speak >>>>>>>> since it wouldn't speak, and still no go, I still get the same >>>>>>>> error and I've done the whole process 6 times now. I'm >>>>>>>> officially stumped! >>>>>>>> Can anyone help me please with this issue? >>>>>>>> You can write me offlist at cdrobles...@gmail.com as to not >>>>>>>> clutter up this list thank you again for your service. I >>>>>>>> greatly appreciate it. >>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>>> . >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>> >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
