First let me say I really appreciate this information. Secondly, if I choose to let my sighted tech friend install windows 10 based on the information provided here, should I just uninstall v17 first keeping the user settings and just reinstall jaws v17 when the laptop is returned to me?
On 11/11/2015 9:40 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi,
Here are all the directions for up grading to Windows 10.

Here you go, How to upgrade to Windows 10 with Jaws.
Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for
future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you
will get a message from Jaws saying:.
The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this
message.
In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this
message.
Next, Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop in your new w-10 PC.
Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17.
This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment.
Tips on how to do this.
Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17.
Say yes, for your user’s account message.
Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings.
If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows
key+enter, restart your computer.
Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows
key+enter.
Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or
17, set up file.
Press enter on the Jaws setup file.
Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17.
After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on
talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
In w-8.1, this method usually works the first time.
In w-7, you may have to repeat this method two times.
It is a little more difficult going from w-7, to w-10, then from w-8.1 to
w-10.
There are more drivers which much be updated by Microsoft for your w-7
computer to upgrade to w-10.
After completing your upgrade to w-10, see my text file, on customizing w-10
with Jaws.
Here is a drop box link with 33 tutorials for using win 10 Just enter on the link, go almost to the bottom of the page that comes up, and enter on the download link. You will have this folder with win 10 tutorials in it that will really get you started after you download this folder
. Take care.
Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0g6lsnu4map1lm/AADalvpAHamNco1OwroiJ7AUa?dl=0

-----Original Message----- From: Johna Lynn Nordin
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary

When I click on the get windows 10 icon in my system tray it tells me it's
validating my windows or something like that then it says it'll notify me
when it's ready.  How do I know when It's ready?  How will I be notified?
Via email and if so which email address will it send it to?
Thanks
Johna


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;
Says sighted assistance necessary

Hi all,
I just wanted you to know that you can up grade to Windows 10 with JAWS
16.0.4350 or JAWS 16.0.4463. You do not have to wait until you receive JAWS 17 to up grade. I up graded with JAWS 16.0.4350 and the experience couldn't
have been better. You can use Narrator to do the last couple of steps and
JAWS will come back talking. When it does, just remember to uninstall JAWS
and Reinstall JAWS even if you upgraded from Windows 8.1. It makes things
work so much better in Win 10 if you do. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft
Accessibility;Says sighted assistance necessary

It appeared to me, when I purchased my new SMA for JAWS 18 and 19,  and
upgraded to 17, that the disk would cost $10. I saw nothing to make me
believe that I would be receiving one by mail. I then talked to FS Sales, to
make my SMA purchase, and nothing was said about them sending me the disk
either. So, unless someone receives one and posts that they did, then I am
assuming that there will be no disk sentt.

Mike
mike.boy...@comcast.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft Accessibility;Says
sighted assistance necessary

Hello Gang:

I tried to upgrade an older Dell laptop to Windows 10, yesterday, through
the MS Accessibility Help Desk. But, was unsuccessful, because I had so many
Windows 7 updates to download and install. Still having to download some
today.

However, here is my point. While talking to one of the MS helpers, he told me, "Well, Sir, you know that when we do the download for Windows 10, there will be a time, when there is no connection with us, and sighted assistance will be necessary." I replied, "Well, I understand at that point, I can turn
on the narrator and complete it without sighted assistance."

He said, "I don't think that is really the case. You need sighted
assistance."

Well, according to the notes from Jim Flusche, The narrator is totally
useable, after the 10 install. Or did I misunderstand Jim's instructions?

Two final questions:

1. Does FS send out CDs for the JAWS 17, for those of us with a SMA?

2. Would a CD be a good thing to have for starting a new Windows 10
computer, or can that be done via narrator, as well.

Thanks. Have a great Sunday!

Neil

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