I can offer an example. In iTunes, new playlists created with iTunes 12.2.1 or later versions require drag and drop to re-arrange the order of the list. (Old playlists created before 12.2.1 are not affected.). Since the JAWS cursor sees nothing but blanks and graphics, I don't know of any way to work with these new playlists using drag and drop as Apple suggests. Here is my correspondence with Apple (read to the end). I copied FS support re this but received one of those non-replies about trying JAWS in default mode.
RE: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; Follow-up: 629039632 Hello, Thank you for your reply. The Playlist items may be arranged via drag and drop action. If JAWS has a drag and drop function, we recommend trying that as a way to rearrange playlists. Sincerely, Apple Accessibility On September 30, 2015 at 18:15:02 PM GMT, oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote: Perhaps you did not read to the end of my message. One of your own accessibility support staff verified that changes in these versions of iTunes make it impossible to edit and manipulate playlists created with these versions without a mouse. Your technician was not using JAWS. Cher Bosch From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:05 PM To: oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; Follow-up: 629039632 Hello, Thank you for your email. At this time Apple includes support for the Window-Eyes screen reader in iTunes. Other screen readers may require an update. If you find that another screen reader is not working correctly, please check with the application developer to see if they have an update for the software. Sincerely, Apple Accessibility On September 28, 2015 at 16:22:29 PM GMT, oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote: These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in playlists and were created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3: *Selection: Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, selection no longer seems to follow the cursor keys- so standard windows keyboard commands for cut or copy result in a "nothing selected" error message. It is impossible to re-arrange the order of songs created under these versions of iTunes. The only playlists which are still functional are those which were created in prior versions of iTunes. *Navigation: Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or so lines, the selection focus is lost. You cannot read the information or proceed further in that direction without first arrowing backward one line- which then allows you to move forward one more line- thus advancing only one line at a time (backwards then forwards) in a see-saw fashion. The cursor actually does move but the focus seems to be lost and the new song information is not read. Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or beginning of the playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on that line. It is necessary to arrow away from that song and back before the information can be read. Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read the information for the song on which the cursor lands. *Nuisance artwork: With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line of the playlist. Even copying the songs from an old playlist without artwork into a new one created under these versions produces a playlist with the artwork icons. * iTunes becoming unresponsive: Accidental use of the standard windows command Control-Home results in iTunes freezing. This command is so commonly used for various purposes by keyboard users that this is bothersome. This is my previous message to you re these issues: From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in iTunes 12.2.1 Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not accessible to persons relying on keyboard accessibility to work with them. I phoned Apple Accessibility recently to see if the tech could replicate my problem. He verified that with the latest iTunes, you cannot use keyboard shortcuts to select, copy or move songs in new playlists with the keyboard (using a PC). He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have JAWS installed, and could not perform these functions either. I can still use all these keyboard commands within playlists created prior to installing the new iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and rename it (so I can have a editable playlist) the newly duplicated playlist is non-editable- apparently because it was duplicated under the new iTunes. The only way I can add songs to one of these new playlists is by using 'add to playlist' on the context menu- and the order of songs is unchangeable by this method- I.E. the order you add the songs is unchangeable after the fact. So, basically playlists are not very useful. Cher -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... I do not have an example handy but It is when you say need to drag an object from one place to another. We are not talking about thing like files and folders but actual objects maybe a graphic something like that. Tom Bisset -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... Tom, I have never encountered a situation where cut and paste did not work. Send me an example sometime if you come across one. Al -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... As Peter said cut and paste is not an option. There are situations where cut and paste don't work and dragging is the only option. The problem with the drag and drop I found that it seems to work with in the same window but doesn't work when trying to drag something from one window to another window. Of course it may be just me but hopefully some one else has a better experience. Tom Bisset -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... Peter, Over the years, the consensus of this list has been to simply use cut & paste, a lot simpler and consistent in results. Al -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of peter.lo...@spartannash.com Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... Has anyone been able to successfully drag and drop a file? I got this requirement to do that, and can't seem to get it to work. Cut and Paste isn't an option in this case. When I try to drag .. it either doesn't do anything or comes back and tells me the object isn't visible. Thanks for any help. Peter Logan Database Administrator SpartanNash INC. Office: 616/878-8309 Mobile: 616/304-9672 E-Mail: peter.lo...@spartannash.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
