If you have any of the older playlists- you can add the songs to a new uneditable playlist, then use the old empty one for arranging new playlists. That's the only way I'm getting by right now.
Cher -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 7:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... Reordering songs on the phone has become easier with the last couple updates of the iOS. I find it easier than struggling with the drag and drop function on the laptop. On 11/22/15, Don & Cher <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Kinberly - Then I'm worried about the future of blind users with > iDevices as you received a brush-off from Apple too. > > In my case, I'm re-ordering in order to burn the playlist onto CDs in > the exact order they sound best together- so my purposes are quite different. > Have never tried re-arranging on the phone- thought that would be > difficult- > interesting idea. > > Cher > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Alan Robbins > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 12:44 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... > > Kinberly, > > Handy suggestion, will keep it. > Order of my playlists does not matter too much as I most always use > the shuffle as I hate always hearing songs in the same order. > > Al > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:54 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... > > This is not so much a solution as a workaround and is viable only if > you have an apple device. But I usually rearrange songs on my phoe > then sync the playlist back to the computer. > > I am not sure what is going on at apple accessibility, but I received > the same nonresponse when I recently reported my inability to confirm > payment information on the apple web site using jaws. > > Kimber > > Sent from Kimber's iPhone > >> On Nov 20, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Don & Cher > <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> I can offer an example. In iTunes, new playlists created > with iTunes >> 12.2.1 or later versions require drag and drop to > re-arrange the order of the list. >> (Old playlists created before 12.2.1 are not affected.). > Since the >> JAWS cursor sees nothing but blanks and graphics, I don't > know of any >> way to work with these new playlists using drag and drop > as Apple >> suggests. Here is my correspondence with Apple (read to > the end). I >> copied FS support re this but received one of those > non-replies about trying JAWS in default mode. >> >> RE: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; Follow-up: > 629039632 >> Hello, Thank you for your reply. The Playlist items may be > arranged >> via drag and drop action. If JAWS has a drag and drop > function, we >> recommend trying that as a way to rearrange playlists. >> >> Sincerely, >> Apple Accessibility >> >> On September 30, 2015 at 18:15:02 PM GMT, > oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net >> wrote: >> >> Perhaps you did not read to the end of my message. One of > your own >> accessibility support staff verified that changes in these > versions of >> iTunes make it impossible to edit and manipulate playlists > created >> with these versions without a mouse. Your technician was > not using JAWS. >> Cher Bosch >> >> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:05 PM >> To: oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net >> Subject: Re: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; > Follow-up: >> 629039632 >> >> Hello, >> Thank you for your email. At this time Apple includes > support for the >> Window-Eyes screen reader in iTunes. Other screen readers > may require >> an update. >> If you find that another screen reader is not working > correctly, >> please check with the application developer to see if they > have an >> update for the software. >> Sincerely, >> Apple Accessibility >> >> On September 28, 2015 at 16:22:29 PM GMT, > oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net >> wrote: >> >> These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in > playlists and >> were created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3: >> >> *Selection: >> Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, > selection no >> longer seems to follow the cursor keys- so standard > windows keyboard >> commands for cut or copy result in a "nothing selected" > error message. >> It is impossible to re-arrange the order of songs created > under these >> versions of iTunes. The only playlists which are still > functional are >> those which were created in prior versions of iTunes. >> >> *Navigation: >> Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or > so lines, >> the selection focus is lost. You cannot read the > information or >> proceed further in that direction without first arrowing > backward one >> line- which then allows you to move forward one more line- > thus >> advancing only one line at a time (backwards then > forwards) in a >> see-saw fashion. The cursor actually does move but the > focus seems to >> be lost and the new song information is not read. >> Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or > beginning of >> the playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on > that line. It >> is necessary to arrow away from that song and back before > the >> information can be read. >> Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read > the >> information for the song on which the cursor lands. >> >> *Nuisance artwork: >> With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line > of the playlist. >> Even copying the songs from an old playlist without > artwork into a new >> one created under these versions produces a playlist with > the artwork icons. >> >> * iTunes becoming unresponsive: >> Accidental use of the standard windows command > Control-Home results in >> iTunes freezing. This command is so commonly used for > various purposes >> by keyboard users that this is bothersome. >> >> This is my previous message to you re these issues: >> >> From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM >> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' >> Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in > iTunes 12.2.1 >> >> Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not > accessible to >> persons relying on keyboard accessibility to work with > them. I phoned >> Apple Accessibility recently to see if the tech could > replicate my >> problem. He verified that with the latest iTunes, you > cannot use >> keyboard shortcuts to select, copy or move songs in new > playlists with the keyboard (using a PC). >> He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have > JAWS >> installed, and could not perform these functions either. I > can still >> use all these keyboard commands within playlists created > prior to >> installing the new >> iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and rename > it (so I >> can have a editable playlist) the newly duplicated > playlist is >> non-editable- apparently because it was duplicated under > the new >> iTunes. The only way I can add songs to one of these new > playlists is >> by using 'add to playlist' on the context menu- and the > order of songs >> is unchangeable by this method- I.E. the order you add the > songs is >> unchangeable after the fact. So, basically playlists are > not very useful. >> Cher >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >> On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:29 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >> >> I do not have an example handy but It is when you say need > to drag an >> object from one place to another. We are not talking > about thing like >> files and folders but actual objects maybe a graphic > something like that. >> Tom Bisset >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:25 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >> >> Tom, >> >> I have never encountered a situation where cut and paste > did not work. >> Send me an example sometime if you come across one. >> >> Al >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf > Of Bissett, >> Tom >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:05 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >> >> As Peter said cut and paste is not an option. There are > situations >> where cut and paste don't work and dragging is the only > option. >> The problem with the drag and drop I found that it seems > to work with >> in the same window but doesn't work when trying to drag > something from >> one window to another window. >> Of course it may be just me but hopefully some one else > has a better >> experience. >> Tom Bisset >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf > Of Alan >> Robbins >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:49 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >> >> Peter, >> >> Over the years, the consensus of this list has been to > simply use cut >> & paste, a lot simpler and consistent in results. >> >> Al >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf > Of >> peter.lo...@spartannash.com >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >> >> Has anyone been able to successfully drag and drop a file? >> I got this requirement to do that, and can't seem to get > it to work. >> Cut and Paste isn't an option in this case. When I try to > drag .. it >> either doesn't do anything or comes back and tells me the > object isn't visible. >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Peter Logan >> Database Administrator >> SpartanNash INC. >> Office: 616/878-8309 >> Mobile: 616/304-9672 >> E-Mail: peter.lo...@spartannash.com >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >> visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >> visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >> visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Kimberly For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
