Leasey can be used up to restarting your computer 14 times. He even said that if you never restart your computer that you could use it forever. Now we all know that is not possible but you can try it for a while free.
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... Andy, I don't begrudge him charging either, but it seems to me that it ought to be ossible to test the scripts or run as a demo for a while before parting with cash. On 24/11/2015 16:31, Baracco, Andrew W wrote: > I like Brian too. Basically what he offers are bundles of scripts. One > problem with his approach is that whenever there is a new version of > JAWS these scripts are often broken and the user has to wait for him > to update them. His stuff does work, and I do not begrudge him > charging for his work, as script writing takes time and effort. > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:04 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and > drop ... > > Flor, I like Brian, however I find he charges a lot for what he > develops. I repeat my earlier question, how much is it? > > On 24/11/2015 01:00, Flor Lynch wrote: >> It's Leasey - Learn, Advance, So Easy - developed by Brian hartgen, >> to work between JAWS and iTunes. www.hartgen.org/leaseycentral >. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stone >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:59 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >> >> Rose, what's Lece for itunes, and more to the point how much is it? >> I too hate iTunes for windows. >> >> On 23/11/2015 16:53, Rose Combs wrote: >>> It is obvious they don't care about accessibility of iTunes for > Windows! >>> Every upgrade creates more problems. I loved my trial with Lesey >>> for iTunes alone it would have been worth the price but PayPal and I >>> have a hate-hate relationship so after the trial I am back to >>> spending way more time doing something I want to do darn it! >>> PayPal and iTunes both pretty much are more trouble than they are > worth. >>> Even trying to open a new account to solve my issues did not work, >>> after I read numerous pages of liability stuff I never could find >>> the place to say I read the legalese and to continue. >>> Might work since one shopping site I used did not work right until I >>> actually removed Silverlight but after months of struggling I >>> decided to wait a long time before I try the site again. >>> Unfortunately I occasionally nee iTunes for backups and it is my >>> preference for updating, or it was until recently when the progress >>> I used to hear disappeared. Last update of 9.1 I did over the air >>> because iTunes was being stubborn. The iPad is still on >>> 9.0.2 I think and I have not updated that because I don't use it all >>> that much these days. It is one of the original mini iPads, and on >>> 16 GB. I keep having to remove things for an update to happen and >>> just have not been ready to do it. >>> Sort of like Windows 10, I use 7, hesitate to mess up my computer >>> when I use it daily. >>> >>> >>> Rose Combs >>> roseco...@q.com >>> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times >>> the memory! >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >>> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch >>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 12:38 PM >>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >>> >>> Hi, >>> I believe that Apple could care less about Windows accessibility, >>> since it's >>> >>> not their baby, and they see themselves as rivals to Microsoft in >>> the computer world. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Don & Cher >>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 6:42 PM >>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >>> >>> Kinberly - Then I'm worried about the future of blind users with >>> iDevices as you received a brush-off from Apple too. >>> >>> In my case, I'm re-ordering in order to burn the playlist onto CDs >>> in the exact order they sound best together- so my purposes are >>> quite different. >>> Have never tried re-arranging on the phone- thought that would be >>> difficult- >>> interesting idea. >>> >>> Cher >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On >>> Behalf Of Alan Robbins >>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 12:44 PM >>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >>> >>> Kinberly, >>> >>> Handy suggestion, will keep it. >>> Order of my playlists does not matter too much as I most always use >>> the shuffle as I hate always hearing songs in the same order. >>> >>> Al >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of >>> Kimberly >>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:54 AM >>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Drag and drop ... >>> >>> This is not so much a solution as a workaround and is viable only if >>> you have an apple device. But I usually rearrange songs on my phoe >>> then sync the playlist back to the computer. >>> >>> I am not sure what is going on at apple accessibility, but I >>> received the same nonresponse when I recently reported my inability >>> to confirm payment information on the apple web site using jaws. >>> >>> Kimber >>> >>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Don & Cher >>> <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>> I can offer an example. In iTunes, new playlists created >>> with iTunes >>>> 12.2.1 or later versions require drag and drop to >>> re-arrange the order of the list. >>>> (Old playlists created before 12.2.1 are not affected.). >>> Since the >>>> JAWS cursor sees nothing but blanks and graphics, I don't >>> know of any >>>> way to work with these new playlists using drag and drop >>> as Apple >>>> suggests. Here is my correspondence with Apple (read to >>> the end). I >>>> copied FS support re this but received one of those >>> non-replies about trying JAWS in default mode. >>>> RE: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; Follow-up: >>> 629039632 >>>> Hello, Thank you for your reply. The Playlist items may be >>> arranged >>>> via drag and drop action. If JAWS has a drag and drop >>> function, we >>>> recommend trying that as a way to rearrange playlists. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Apple Accessibility >>>> >>>> On September 30, 2015 at 18:15:02 PM GMT, >>> oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Perhaps you did not read to the end of my message. One of >>> your own >>>> accessibility support staff verified that changes in these >>> versions of >>>> iTunes make it impossible to edit and manipulate playlists >>> created >>>> with these versions without a mouse. Your technician was >>> not using JAWS. >>>> Cher Bosch >>>> >>>> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 1:05 PM >>>> To: oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net >>>> Subject: Re: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes; >>> Follow-up: >>>> 629039632 >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Thank you for your email. At this time Apple includes >>> support for the >>>> Window-Eyes screen reader in iTunes. Other screen readers >>> may require >>>> an update. >>>> If you find that another screen reader is not working >>> correctly, >>>> please check with the application developer to see if they >>> have an >>>> update for the software. >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Apple Accessibility >>>> >>>> On September 28, 2015 at 16:22:29 PM GMT, >>> oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in >>> playlists and >>>> were created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3: >>>> >>>> *Selection: >>>> Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, >>> selection no >>>> longer seems to follow the cursor keys- so standard >>> windows keyboard >>>> commands for cut or copy result in a "nothing selected" >>> error message. >>>> It is impossible to re-arrange the order of songs created >>> under these >>>> versions of iTunes. The only playlists which are still >>> functional are >>>> those which were created in prior versions of iTunes. >>>> >>>> *Navigation: >>>> Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or >>> so lines, >>>> the selection focus is lost. You cannot read the >>> information or >>>> proceed further in that direction without first arrowing >>> backward one >>>> line- which then allows you to move forward one more line- >>> thus >>>> advancing only one line at a time (backwards then >>> forwards) in a >>>> see-saw fashion. The cursor actually does move but the >>> focus seems to >>>> be lost and the new song information is not read. >>>> Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or >>> beginning of >>>> the playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on >>> that line. It >>>> is necessary to arrow away from that song and back before >>> the >>>> information can be read. >>>> Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read >>> the >>>> information for the song on which the cursor lands. >>>> >>>> *Nuisance artwork: >>>> With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line >>> of the playlist. >>>> Even copying the songs from an old playlist without >>> artwork into a new >>>> one created under these versions produces a playlist with >>> the artwork icons. >>>> * iTunes becoming unresponsive: >>>> Accidental use of the standard windows command >>> Control-Home results in >>>> iTunes freezing. This command is so commonly used for >>> various purposes >>>> by keyboard users that this is bothersome. >>>> >>>> This is my previous message to you re these issues: >>>> >>>> From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM >>>> To: 'accessibil...@apple.com' >>>> Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in >>> iTunes 12.2.1 >>>> Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not >>> accessible to >>>> persons relying on keyboard accessibility to work with >>> them. I phoned >>>> Apple Accessibility recently to see if the tech could >>> replicate my >>>> problem. He verified that with the latest iTunes, you >>> cannot use >>>> keyboard shortcuts to select, copy or move songs in new >>> playlists with the keyboard (using a PC). >>>> He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have >>> JAWS >>>> installed, and could not perform these functions either. I >>> can still >>>> use all these keyboard commands within playlists created >>> prior to >>>> installing the new >>>> iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and rename >>> it (so I >>>> can have a editable playlist) the newly duplicated >>> playlist is >>>> non-editable- apparently because it was duplicated under >>> the new >>>> iTunes. The only way I can add songs to one of these new >>> playlists is >>>> by using 'add to playlist' on the context menu- and the >>> order of songs >>>> is unchangeable by this method- I.E. the order you add the >>> songs is >>>> unchangeable after the fact. So, basically playlists are >>> not very useful. >>>> Cher >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:29 PM >>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>>> >>>> I do not have an example handy but It is when you say need >>> to drag an >>>> object from one place to another. We are not talking >>> about thing like >>>> files and folders but actual objects maybe a graphic >>> something like that. >>>> Tom Bisset >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:25 PM >>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>>> >>>> Tom, >>>> >>>> I have never encountered a situation where cut and paste >>> did not work. >>>> Send me an example sometime if you come across one. >>>> >>>> Al >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf >>> Of Bissett, >>>> Tom >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:05 PM >>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>>> >>>> As Peter said cut and paste is not an option. There are >>> situations >>>> where cut and paste don't work and dragging is the only >>> option. >>>> The problem with the drag and drop I found that it seems >>> to work with >>>> in the same window but doesn't work when trying to drag >>> something from >>>> one window to another window. >>>> Of course it may be just me but hopefully some one else >>> has a better >>>> experience. >>>> Tom Bisset >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf >>> Of Alan >>>> Robbins >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:49 PM >>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>>> >>>> Peter, >>>> >>>> Over the years, the consensus of this list has been to >>> simply use cut >>>> & paste, a lot simpler and consistent in results. >>>> >>>> Al >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> peter.lo...@spartannash.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM >>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Drag and drop ... >>>> >>>> Has anyone been able to successfully drag and drop a file? >>>> I got this requirement to do that, and can't seem to get >>> it to work. >>>> Cut and Paste isn't an option in this case. When I try to >>> drag .. it >>>> either doesn't do anything or comes back and tells me the >>> object isn't visible. >>>> Thanks for any help. >>>> >>>> Peter Logan >>>> Database Administrator >>>> SpartanNash INC. >>>> Office: 616/878-8309 >>>> Mobile: 616/304-9672 >>>> E-Mail: peter.lo...@spartannash.com >>>> >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>> visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>> visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>>> visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>> visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>> visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>> visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list >>> visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
