Hi Justin.

I already said which version of Jaws I have. Version 17. I can only go back to 16 because of Windows 10. I don't know for sure which version last worked for this kind of project. I know I did do this before. It might have been back with Word 2003, as I went from Word 2003 to 2013, and am now on 2016.

I don't apologize for keeping up with technology. I just question why so much support gets lost along the way of supposedly sound Jaws releases. Some of us do try and work beyond the basic word processing level.

But, I won't continue with this rant, because I know it will go no where, and might be considered by some as my own fault for upgrading. Or, it might be seen as criticizing the goose that laid the golden egg.

I think I'm almost ready to switch to beef or something. lol.

Jean



-----Original Message----- From: Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

What version of JAWS do you have? And, what version were you last able to do everything you wanted to do?
Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Jean,

In fairness, didn't you say you used to be able to handle footers in previous versions of Word? So maybe it isn't so much that JAWS went backwards, but that it hasn't kept up with Office 2016. Also, you indicated you're using JAWS 17. Maybe 18 has caught up.

Of course, having to keep up-to-date with JAWS via SMA is an added biennial expense, but I find that FS makes improvements beyond those it publicizes, perhaps because as it fixes one way of interacting with applications and the Internet, other nagging problems go away.

Still, JAWS is far from perfect, and it's maddening when what worked in one version of JAWS or in a program it used to support suddenly doesn't. this is why those of us who keep up with JAWS but don't go out and buy the latest version of every other application can get annoyingly smug.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the idea. However, I have changed my plan for this project because the workarounds I have are just too prone too error. I wanted to compile recipes with each section being a new recipe. Then, have a footer for each recipe, plus, if the recipe went to more than one page, a continuation footer for that recipe. Page numbers continuous. Plus a front section of Roman page numbers with a generated table of contents.

Honestly, I find so much that Jaws isn't reading in the various dialogues to do this. I am struggling with section breaks, page numbering, and especially the footers. So many steps backward in accessibility in my humble opinion. And I'm supposed to pay for a Jaws upgrade SMA now. Just wondering why. How many more things can they screw up or not keep up with? It always seems that once past the basics, accessibility is somewhat lacking.

Sorry everyone for the vent, but I hate dumbing something down just to make it work. I used to be able to do all of this with no problem. Now, not so much.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi, Jean.

I notice that no MS Word 2016 user has responded. As a 2010 user, where I know footers worked fine for you, I can offer only the suggestion that you type the text you want to appear in the footer in a separate document and paste it into the footer field. Hardly elegant, but it might be a workaround.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.

Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word and Jaws.

Jean
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