Hunter, try to remove the line
<mbean-ref>JBOSS-SYSTEM:service=PostgreSQL</mbean-ref> from your postgres-service.xml (or however it's called). I think that should solve the problem. If I understand the whole process right then this means the datasource thingy depends on a service 'PostgreSQL' and therefore doesn't start until this service is available. But it never will be, because it doesn't exist. In the default setup 'DefaultDS' depends on 'Hypersonic' - therefore you have the line <mbean-ref>JBOSS-SYSTEM:service=Hypersonic</mbean-ref> And because the hypersonic db gets started by JBoss <mbean code="org.jboss.jdbc.HypersonicDatabase" name="JBOSS-SYSTEM:service=Hypersonic"> <attribute name="Port">1476</attribute> <attribute name="Silent">true</attribute> <attribute name="Database">default</attribute> <attribute name="Trace">false</attribute> </mbean> the thing works. You don't need that with external db's If this was complete nonsense shoot me and call me an idiot - or the other way round (David ??) Tell me if it works, Hunter. Cheers Torsten __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development