The "problem" here is that the quickstart is meant to show developers 
how to get started fast. I believe this was the first concern of those 
asking for the demo apps. There is already the petstore app running on 
Jboss to show full E-Commerce style abilities. Im not against donating a 
full app mind you, I just think that the work behind it could be better 
spent developing several smaller apps (in the spirit of tomcats 
"examples" webapp) .

My thinking here is twofold.

  1) the purpose of a quickstart is to get developers up and running 
quickly. A full blown application wont really do this. Plus it fits in 
more to the model of the inexpensive documentation. Where the small apps 
fit in with the free docs part.

  2) A full app would only assist some places in "selling" Jboss to a 
limited audience. I had meetings with 2 prospective clients in the past 
week and both have asked ME about Jboss. Granted it is on my resume and 
such as a technology I have used, but these people knew what it was. One 
in fact wondered why they didnt use jboss instead of weblogic 
(Especially after I told him about the features that will be in 3.0) 
Sorry BEA, you guys might lose that one :)

Im not against helping out on a full application as I said before, but I 
think the initial thrust should be in the direction of a quickstart kind 
of thing. These are not really intensely documented apps, but more along 
the lines of little examples that show how to use (at least at a basic 
level) Jboss 3.

I actually like the model Marc is using now. It makes sense to me. I 
like the idea that even though I am willing to submit stuff for free, 
when it comes to the more advanced stuff there might be some renumeration.

Al


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>I've been doing a few hours of thinking and came to a conclusion for a demo
>app.
>
>Would anyone like to assist me in creating an E-Bay style bidding
>application?
>
>James Hicks
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