> First I want to agree with you that the current
> deployment system has
> problems in getting the deployment order right for
> more than toy examples.

all he is asking for is the page ordering which should be trivial to do.


> another, I think mbean-refs are artificial.

hmmmmm.... there might still be a place. the fact is that even if I automate teh SCL 
tracking I don't know that I can track non-typed calls, Unless we hack the 
MBeanServer, but in any case, it is ahead of us.

> What would you think of a deployment script facility,
> where you listed the
> packages in the order you wanted them deployed?  At
> most the script would
> be autodeployed.

similar to one page and basta, more complex... 

look keep it simple (I think the real problem you have is an incapacity to "keep it 
simple" ;-)

> Also... why are you using autodeployment on a
> production system? You can
> write a little program to deploy the packages you
> want in the order you
> want, the testsuite has lots of examples of this, see
> esp. 

it's a point but the feature is so trivial that I would drop this discussion.


> I have been thinking along the lines of large
> projects being divided up
> into medium sized chunks: the deployment then
> involves deploying these
> chunks in the correct order.  I would think this
> would be easier to
> understand and maintain than one giant dd at the
> lowest level of detail.
> Does this make sense?

yes 


> Finally: I don't think any logic in AutoDeployer
> changed.  If you put the

It is not AD logic it is in "service controller" do we group the mbeans to 
"init/start", of course the smaller granularity we need to support is the mbean (we 
do, 2.4 doesn't so that is a very clear improvement) they are saying "page scope was 
useful" we agree, 

let's not let a trivial feature grow out of hand.


> would be hesitant to rely
> on this for a production system.

bullshit... he does, it works, He loves it, he wants it in 3.0 let him code it, or 
DavidM, all I ask you is drop it and don't remove it or I come kick your ass on my way 
down to Miami.

oka? 

good work btw, really, I have calmed down, and I realize that between you and hiram we 
got some solid coders under the SUN B-)

marcf



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