marc fleury wrote:
 >
 >> 2. Is the boot-server configuration only used for booting over the 
network
 >>  - can we try this out just now, and how do you decide what 
configuration
 >>  it obtains/supplies??
 > That I really don't know what it is doing there, see my previous
 > mail on jetty here http://www.jboss.org/forums/thread.jsp?forum=66=4975
 
This draws a blank when I try to browse it...

 > It's gone unless I hear from Jules in the next 30 seconds.

OK. I won't lose any sleep over it then :). Is the net booting stuff 
still active?

 >
 > I HAD BUILD THAT SUPPORT IN THE FIRST VERSION ON RH I will make sure
 > it is still there (I think it is actually). Then the *preferred*
 > way is to just drop the xml snippet or add it to the base
 > jboss-service.xml if you know it is going to be part of the server
 > always. The only advantage of doing the snippet would be monitoring
 > and reconfiguring the service based on this. Could be useful.
 >
Can't you monitor and reconfigure the services which are always deployed 
too? Do you mean that the snippet files would be rewritten (a la 
jboss-auto.jcml) to reflect changes in the configuration?

 >
 >> I'll have a go at redoing the simple mbean lab we did in London to
 >>  see if I can clear things up, but any information on the basic
 >> setup these days would be very useful.
 >>
 >
 > The London lab covers the creation of a standard mbean with the xml
 > file format, it was quite simple but required a server restart
 > everytime you changed the class or the configuration jcml. What we
 > are talking about here is the capacity to hot-deploy these guys. So
 >  the next London lab will probably focus on the ability to change
 > that separate snippet and develop the class live, soooo easy for
 > development.
 >
OK. So to clarify - what's the current situation if I update the snippet 
file - how do you determine which classes need reloaded? You mentioned 
that you *could* monitor lib/ext but presumably that doesn't happen 
currently. Where do I specify which classes my service needs and how are 
they reloaded?

 > forget the SAR *****packaging***** madness for now. The features are
 >  really nice, but (french saying) we are "butt-fucking flies" :O
 > over silly packaging issues.
 >
 > Is this clear?
 >
It's much clearer. Once I've tried it out I should get that warm glow 
for a while... I think the stuff about where my service classes should 
go in order to be dynamically reloaded should clinch it... As far as I 
can see all the current services all have classpaths which point to 
files which are exclusively in lib/ext.

Butt-fucking flies is pretty clear and sounds like a useful French 
phrase to know - what is the original "enculer des mouches" or something 
like that?? I know the Chinese would say "taking trousers down to fart" 
which is equally appropriate and is a bit less vulgar :).

Luke.

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