I think our comments came across wrong. I don't think it is critical or important whether the web console runs as a Java plug-in or DHTML. It is just a usability observation. The web console will be used by IT professionals, so I am not concerned that they won't be able to install the plug-in.
Maybe we can come back to this when the higher-priority tasks are closed or if someone volunteers the time and contributes the code. Ivelin --- Bill Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good for you that you agree. I'm unwilling to do > the work to > > a) write yet another new GUI framework > b) port all existing functionality to new framework > > Personally, I'd rather focus on writing new > management functionality > with the current web-console than rewriting to a new > GUI framework and > being stuck in DHTML hell. Unless a new recruit > comes along, the > current recruits have other things to worry about. > > What is so wrong with the current implementation? > > > Bill > > > > Ivelin Ivanov wrote: > > > I agree with Thomas. Ws use the same technique. > The > > XML routines in JS are different for IE and NS, > but > > it's relatively simple code. The logic is in the > back > > end. The client just refreshes the tree nodes. > > > > You can pop-up on righ-click with DHTML. > > > > Ivelin > > > > > > --- Bill Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>yes, but web console has pop-menus on tree > control. > >> > >>Thomas Diesler wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Sacha / Bill, > >>> > >>>at my old company I implemented a HTML tree > >> > >>control that gets it's input > >> > >>>from XML. The idea is, that the server assembles > >> > >>the XML data, either of > >> > >>>the whole tree or parts of it and the tree > control > >> > >>transforms it into > >> > >>>HTML. The server does not need to know about the > >> > >>state of the expanded > >> > >>>nodes / current node in the user session. > >>> > >>>Images and node names are of course freely > >> > >>configurable at runtime. > >> > >>>The server receives messages when the user clicks > >> > >>on the tree nodes or > >> > >>>expands/collapses a level. HTML is still the > least > >> > >>common denominator as > >> > >>>far as browsers go. > >>> > >>>Check it out at: > >>> > >> > > > http://www.softcon-itec.de/itec-site/products/sctree.html > > > >>>cheers > >>>-Thomas > >>> > >>>PS: I never liked the idea of using an applet > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: > >> > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>On Behalf Of > >> > >>>Ivelin Ivanov > >>>Sent: Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2004 07:41 > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Webconsole Snapshot > >> > >>Recording of JMX attributes > >> > >>> > >>>Sacha, do you remember what drove your decision > to > >> > >>use Swing for the > >> > >>>management tree in the web console? > >>> > >>>The reason why I am asking is because we (in our > >>>company) had to go through a long and painful > >> > >>round of experiments and > >> > >>>prototypes comparing the feasibility of DHTML vs > >> > >>Swing for a big > >> > >>>project. One of the prototypes showed how to > >> > >>efficiently implement > >> > >>>dynamic tree that updates some of its nodes over > >> > >>time. > >> > >>>At the end, DHTML came ahead because of its > better > >> > >>cross-browser, > >> > >>>cross-platform availability, compared to java > >> > >>plug-ins. Although it is > >> > >>>much less pleasent to code to. > >>> > >>> > >>>Ivelin > >>> > >>>--- Bill Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>The web-console framework is Sacha's baby. I've > >> > >>just added shit. > >> > >>>>Ivelin Ivanov wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Cool. > >>>>>I assume this is a feature of the web console, > >> > >>not > >> > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>jmx console? > >>>>> > >>>>>BTW, how did you make the decision to use a > java > >> > >>applet in the web > >> > >>>>>console vs. dhtml? > >>>>> > >>>>>Ivelin > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>--- Bill Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Hi all, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I just committed the ability to do snapshot > >> > >>recordings of any JMX > >> > >>>>>>attribute within the web-console. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>To use it, you right-click a JMX attribute and > >> > >>choose the "create > >> > >>>>>>snapshot" item. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>From there you can start/stop snapshotting. > >>>> > >>>>Review > >>>> > === message truncated === ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html _______________________________________________ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
