Ok, I found out a little bit more.  I looked at the docs for 
SeamExtendedManagedPersistencePhaseListener.  It says "Deprecated. use 
TransactionalSeamPhaseListener".  I took out the 
SeamExtendedManagedPersistencePhaseListener and replaced it with 
TransactionalSeamPhaseListener in my faces-config.xml, and I still get 

org.hibernate.LazyInitializationException: failed to lazily initialize a 
collection of role: foo.bar.ips, no session or session was closed
  | 

Any ideas?  Does Seam-managed persistence context work with Facelets?  LIEs 
have been the bane of ORM since Hibernate; surely they are solvable by now and 
I'm just making some dumb mistake?


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