Daniel,
I think you have made your point that you like VAJ, others like me have used it
extensively
and it does not fit our needs. (I found it slow on my machine 1GHZ/768Meg and there
were
way more things I disliked about it than liked).
This mailing list is an emacs/JDE discussion so I would ask you to please direct your
comments
to how you would like to see JDE improved including incorporating 'cool' features that
other IDE
environments have like incremental compile (VAJ), pluggable JVMs (JBuilder) which JDE
already supports. We use emacs because it is extensible, available on many platforms,
and it is
FREE. The JDE add-on makes it a great Java development environment. Next I will have
to try
ECB to see if I like as much as others do.
John Syre
C++/C, Java, Perl
206-965-7172
> ----------
> From: Daniel Hegyi[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: JDE vs. VAJ
>
> > > Is the purpose of Emacs and JDE mostly to give a nice environment
> > > for those
> > > users who don't have much space, speed, and don't have admin
> > > rights on their
> > > machine?
> >In my case, none of the above,
> >All the IDE I have tried(Visual Cafe, JBuilder)
> >are incredible slower compare to emacs(I have a pIII 850 btw).
> >Do not have the editing power than emacs does,
> >the emacs key strokes binding does not do it for me.
> >They tend to crash often, are memory hugs, ....
> >and I could keep going.
> >
> >In brief, JDE offers most of the features(or more in some cases)
> >of graphical IDE's plus the ability to fully use emacs.
>
> I use VAJ on my pIII 730. I have 512MB RAM (, lets face it, this is becoming
> a standard configuration.) At first I thought that Emacs had a much more
> powerful editor than VAJ's. VAJ, however, has many nice features, such as
> code completion, syntax coloring, speed bar, etc. Of course, it isn't as
> customizable! Nevertheless, the only thing that I really miss is the import
> wizard and the multiple clipboards.
>
> VAJ has incremental compilation, which is incredible! As soon as you make a
> compile time mistake and save it, a little red x marks your class in the
> speedbar, and all other classes in the package are also marked that have now
> also a compile time error due to the changes. VAJ's "minibuffer" shows the
> errors as you switch focus between classes. No more explicit compilation.
>
> VAJ also has a test environment for servlets and EJBs. You don't have to
> install a servlet engine. Finally, there are Emacs packages for version
> controlling, but VAJ's automatic version controlling is very nice! Not to
> mention its debugger.
>
> Theoretically, VAJ should work on various platforms, since it is Java based.
>
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
> P.S. I know that VAJ isn't for free... :)
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