On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:00:12PM +1000, Michael Brown wrote: > From: "Peter Saint-Andre" > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:50:06AM -0500, Thomas Muldowney wrote: > > > I think this is a sign of a larger end user problem. We have no site > > > that caters to end users... > > > [Snip] > > > > I agree, much more is needed than just an easy user guide. If we really > > want to reach the average IM user, we need an icq.com-style portal that > > makes users happy by providing general-interest chatrooms, easy ways to > > find like-minded users, fun little quizzes and polls, games, and all > > that jazz. I don't think this is something that the JSF would excel at, > > so I doubt that it's a good focus for the JSF. But I do think that this > > would take Jabber to the next level. People are offering Jabber-based > > consumer services (nioki.com, etc.), but there is no "human face" to the > > Jabber movemement. All I know is, it will be a lot of work to create and > > maintain such a service. :) > > I find this list really frustrating at times. We *had* a Jabber End User > site that included polls, client reviews etc and was getting a great deal of > hits - doesn't anyone remember Jabbercentral? - but someone *chough*you > Peter*chough* insisted that it be closed down despite multiple offers to > take over running it. It was replaced but a small link saying "clients" > somewhere on the left of the jabber.org site, and a page with a handful of > clients and a line of yellow/grey stars.
I did not insist on closing down JabberCentral. The proprietor and owner of that site made that decision, though I *did* encourage him to do so because the site was WAY out of date and positively confusing to users, and he lacked the time to improve it or bring it up to date with modern Jabber developments (the site had basically been static since 2000). I never owned or ran JabberCentral, though I did write almost all the content and posted the news stories and, wow, that sounds familiar. Anyone is free to create their own end-user sites. Anyone is free to contact the owner of the jabbercentral.org domain and offer to take it over. I never stopped anyone from doing that then, and no one is stopping you from doing that now. Along with freedom comes responsibility. --stpeter _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
