>But I see that's not 100% (or even 50%?) clear in the spec, so I'll 
>clarify that in the next version.

Great thanks.

hw
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
>Of Peter Saint-Andre
>Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:55 PM
>To: Jabber software development list
>Subject: Re: [jdev] MU-Conference returning "Not Found"
>
>
>Heiner Wolf wrote:
>
>> I was thinking that MUC is backward compatible to GroupChat. 
>If I send a
>> <presence/> without any mentioning of MUC, then I should get a room
>> which is not locked until it is configured. 
>> 
>> You are right JEP-0045 tells me in "9.1.2 Creating an 
>Instant Room", for
>> an instant room I must send an empty iq-query-x-'jabber:x:data'. But
>> this means that a simple <presence/> won't work, because it will lock
>> the room. This makes JEP-0045 incompatible to GroupChat. 
>
>Now that I look at it again, the JEP is probably not as clear as it 
>could be about room creation. The intent is that if you don't include 
>the muc extension in the initial presence, the service will create the 
>room for you and not wait for the config (i.e., backwards-compatible 
>with old-style groupchat), but that if you do include the muc 
>extension 
>   then the service requires you to go through the 
>configuration steps. 
>But I see that's not 100% (or even 50%?) clear in the spec, so I'll 
>clarify that in the next version.
>
>Peter
>
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>Peter Saint-Andre
>Jabber Software Foundation
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